<!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 4.01 Transitional//EN"> <html> <head> <meta content="text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1" http-equiv="Content-Type"> </head> <body bgcolor="#ffffff" text="#000000"> On 05/01/2011 01:28 PM, Jason Todd wrote: <blockquote cite="mid:BAY152-w31BF7E9FCC6143750A48278C9C0@phx.gbl" type="cite"> <style></style> <font class="Apple-style-span" face="Verdana">Chromium/Chrome has a lot of problems that Firefox doesn't have. </font> <div><font class="Apple-style-span" face="Verdana"><br> </font></div> <div><font class="Apple-style-span" face="Verdana">The only substantial advantages that Chromium/Chrome has is its multi-process design (stability), it starts faster, and its nifty method of showing downloads at the bottom of the browser window. And when Firefox gets Electrolysis implemented the stability advantage of Chrome will be eliminated.</font></div> <div><font class="Apple-style-span" face="Verdana"><br> </font></div> </blockquote> <br> I like its smart form filling stuff too, but that's me. (If I start typing my name, it'll give me options to pick sets of data I filled before, and try to fill in the whole form for me based on what I entered in other, completely different forms)<br> <br> <blockquote cite="mid:BAY152-w31BF7E9FCC6143750A48278C9C0@phx.gbl" type="cite"> <div><font class="Apple-style-span" face="Verdana">Here are some of the problems I have with Chrome/Chromium:</font></div> <div><font class="Apple-style-span" face="Verdana">-lacks NoScript functionality <meta http-equiv="content-type" content="text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1"> <span class="Apple-style-span" style="color: rgb(42, 42, 42); line-height: 17px;"><a moz-do-not-send="true" href="http://code.google.com/p/chromium/issues/detail?id=54257" target="_blank" style="line-height: 17px; font-weight: inherit; text-decoration: underline; color: rgb(0, 102, 204); cursor: pointer;">http://code.google.com/p/chromium/issues/detail?id=54257</a></span></font></div> </blockquote> <br> Not standard in Ubuntu, if you want that you can install Firefox. Already stated.<br> <br> Also: Chromium does not have $FAVORITE_FIREFOX_EXTENSION WHY IS THERE NO BRIEF FOR CHROMIUM!?!?<br> <blockquote cite="mid:BAY152-w31BF7E9FCC6143750A48278C9C0@phx.gbl" type="cite"> <div><font class="Apple-style-span" face="Verdana"><font class="Apple-style-span" color="#2a2a2a"><span class="Apple-style-span" style="line-height: 17px;">-cannot handle MMS URL streams <meta http-equiv="content-type" content="text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1"> <a moz-do-not-send="true" href="http://code.google.com/p/chromium/issues/detail?id=47154" target="_blank" style="line-height: 17px; font-weight: inherit; text-decoration: underline; color: rgb(0, 102, 204); cursor: pointer;">http://code.google.com/p/chromium/issues/detail?id=47154</a></span></font></font></div> </blockquote> No comment (don't care about this)<br> <blockquote cite="mid:BAY152-w31BF7E9FCC6143750A48278C9C0@phx.gbl" type="cite"> <div><font class="Apple-style-span" color="#2a2a2a" face="Verdana"><span class="Apple-style-span" style="line-height: 17px;">-can't close single window via keyboard <meta http-equiv="content-type" content="text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1"> <a moz-do-not-send="true" href="http://code.google.com/p/chromium/issues/detail?id=80424#c0">http://code.google.com/p/chromium/issues/detail?id=80424#c0</a></span></font></div> </blockquote> <br> I just tried CTRL+N, CTRL+T, creates multiple tabs in new window. CTRL+W closes a separate tab, until you run out of tabs and close the window; ALT+F4 just drops the whole window. Your argument is invalid.<br> <br> <blockquote cite="mid:BAY152-w31BF7E9FCC6143750A48278C9C0@phx.gbl" type="cite"> <div><font class="Apple-style-span" color="#2a2a2a" face="Verdana"><span class="Apple-style-span" style="line-height: 17px;">-Private/Incognito does not apply to all windows <meta http-equiv="content-type" content="text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1"> <a moz-do-not-send="true" href="http://code.google.com/p/chromium/issues/detail?id=79689#c0">http://code.google.com/p/chromium/issues/detail?id=79689#c0</a></span></font></div> </blockquote> <br> I thought these were supposed to apply to individual tabs? I don't know about Incognito mode so I won't comment.<br> <br> <blockquote cite="mid:BAY152-w31BF7E9FCC6143750A48278C9C0@phx.gbl" type="cite"> <div><font class="Apple-style-span" color="#2a2a2a" face="Verdana"><span class="Apple-style-span" style="line-height: 17px;">-cursor functions fail when gtkrc 2.0 tooltips are turned off <meta http-equiv="content-type" content="text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1"> <a moz-do-not-send="true" href="http://code.google.com/p/chromium/issues/detail?id=77821#c0">http://code.google.com/p/chromium/issues/detail?id=77821#c0</a></span></font></div> <div><font class="Apple-style-span" color="#2a2a2a" face="Verdana"><span class="Apple-style-span" style="line-height: 17px;">-can't cycle thru dropdown list with TAB key <meta http-equiv="content-type" content="text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1"> <a moz-do-not-send="true" href="http://code.google.com/p/chromium/issues/detail?id=77607#c0">http://code.google.com/p/chromium/issues/detail?id=77607#c0</a></span></font></div> <div><font class="Apple-style-span" color="#2a2a2a" face="Verdana">-the dropdown list does not list bookmark occurrences as thoroughly as Firefox does (I can explain more thoroughly if needed)</font></div> <div><font class="Apple-style-span" color="#2a2a2a" face="Verdana"><span class="Apple-style-span" style="line-height: 17px;">-it is not possible to place a dropdown Bookmarks Button on the URL bar (users are forced to use crappy 3rd party options)</span></font></div> </blockquote> I have no clue about these things<br> <blockquote cite="mid:BAY152-w31BF7E9FCC6143750A48278C9C0@phx.gbl" type="cite"> <div><font class="Apple-style-span" color="#2a2a2a" face="Verdana"><span class="Apple-style-span" style="line-height: 17px;">-inability to customize/move Button placements on the URL bar</span></font></div> </blockquote> Customization of the UI indicates to me that you are not used to the UI being given you, thus it is not your favorite program, thus you will probably want to install Opera instead of trying to make Firefox/Chrome look like Opera.<br> <br> <blockquote cite="mid:BAY152-w31BF7E9FCC6143750A48278C9C0@phx.gbl" type="cite"> <div><font class="Apple-style-span" color="#2a2a2a" face="Verdana"><span class="Apple-style-span" style="line-height: 17px;">-can't reopen closed tabs if in Incognito mode</span></font></div> <div><font class="Apple-style-span" color="#2a2a2a" face="Verdana"><span class="Apple-style-span" style="line-height: 17px;">-Firefox is faster on many benchmarks <meta http-equiv="content-type" content="text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1"> <a moz-do-not-send="true" href="http://download.cnet.com/8301-2007_4-20047314-12.html">http://download.cnet.com/8301-2007_4-20047314-12.html</a></span></font></div> </blockquote> <br> IE is faster on many benchmarks. There is a whole class of arguments about benchmarks and why they don't work. This is why graphics card reviewers pull out games and look at the FPS: actual performance often doesn't correlate to the benchmarks at all.<br> <br> <blockquote cite="mid:BAY152-w31BF7E9FCC6143750A48278C9C0@phx.gbl" type="cite"> <div><span class="Apple-style-span" style="color: rgb(42, 42, 42); font-family: Verdana; line-height: 17px;">-there is no print preview</span></div> </blockquote> Hadn't noticed, as I don't own a printer.<br> <br> Print preview in Firefox ... I haven't used in ages, because it was always buggy somehow. Like it would show me 30 pages and print half of one, and I couldn't understand why (this was on a certain web site that generated a transcript for a college). But that's neither here nor there.<br> <br> <blockquote cite="mid:BAY152-w31BF7E9FCC6143750A48278C9C0@phx.gbl" type="cite"> <div><font class="Apple-style-span" color="#2a2a2a" face="Verdana"><span class="Apple-style-span" style="line-height: 17px;">-there is no quick method of reviewing Recent Bookmarks without drilling down into windows/menus</span></font></div> <div><font class="Apple-style-span" color="#2a2a2a" face="Verdana"><span class="Apple-style-span" style="line-height: 17px;"><br> </span></font></div> </blockquote> <br> I've forgotten what a bookmark is...<br> <br> <blockquote cite="mid:BAY152-w31BF7E9FCC6143750A48278C9C0@phx.gbl" type="cite"> <div><font class="Apple-style-span" color="#2a2a2a"><span class="Apple-style-span" style="line-height: 17px;"><font class="Apple-style-span" face="Verdana">I like Chrome a lot. But it can't compete with Firefox as a fully capable and mature browser. It's better as a minimalist occasional use browser.</font><br> </span></font><br> </div> </blockquote> <br> Dunno, I switched away from Firefox because Chromium was far more stable, faster (UI wise), and faster (rendering-wise). It handles JavaScript well (unlike Dillo), it renders properly, and I like its new tab page over a blank tab.<br> <br> Firefox 4 has that tab sorting thing, though, which I really wish was in Chromium. Well, not really; but I use it when it's there.<br> <br> <blockquote cite="mid:BAY152-w31BF7E9FCC6143750A48278C9C0@phx.gbl" type="cite"> <div><br> <font class="Apple-style-span" face="Tahoma">> Date: Sun, 1 May 2011 10:36:45 -0400</font><br> <font class="Apple-style-span" face="Tahoma">> From: <a class="moz-txt-link-abbreviated" href="mailto:john.r.moser@gmail.com">john.r.moser@gmail.com</a></font><br> <font class="Apple-style-span" face="Tahoma">> To: <a class="moz-txt-link-abbreviated" href="mailto:ubuntu-devel-discuss@lists.ubuntu.com">ubuntu-devel-discuss@lists.ubuntu.com</a></font><br> <font class="Apple-style-span" face="Tahoma">> Subject: Chromium vs Firefox?</font><br> <font class="Apple-style-span" face="Tahoma">> </font><br> <font class="Apple-style-span" face="Tahoma">> Has anyone yet brought up the potential to ship Chromium default rather </font><br> <font class="Apple-style-span" face="Tahoma">> than Firefox? At this point it's more advanced methinks, with the only </font><br> <font class="Apple-style-span" face="Tahoma">> likely complaint being that you can't add NoScript or AdBlock+. Ubuntu </font><br> <font class="Apple-style-span" face="Tahoma">> doesn't ship these default anyway; if you want those things, you can get </font><br> <font class="Apple-style-span" face="Tahoma">> Firefox yourself, as you likely already know what you're doing.</font><br> <font class="Apple-style-span" face="Tahoma">> </font><br> <font class="Apple-style-span" face="Tahoma">> For the privacy discussion, see SRWare Iron as a potential source of </font><br> <font class="Apple-style-span" face="Tahoma">> ideas for changes to back-merge (or options to add).</font><br> <font class="Apple-style-span" face="Tahoma">> </font><br> <font class="Apple-style-span" face="Tahoma">> -- </font><br> <font class="Apple-style-span" face="Tahoma">> Ubuntu-devel-discuss mailing list</font><br> <font class="Apple-style-span" face="Tahoma">> <a class="moz-txt-link-abbreviated" href="mailto:Ubuntu-devel-discuss@lists.ubuntu.com">Ubuntu-devel-discuss@lists.ubuntu.com</a></font><br> <font class="Apple-style-span" face="Tahoma">> Modify settings or unsubscribe at: <a class="moz-txt-link-freetext" href="https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-devel-discuss">https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-devel-discuss</a></font><br> </div> </blockquote> <br> </body> </html>