<!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 4.01 Transitional//EN"> <html> <head> <meta content="text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1" http-equiv="Content-Type"> <title></title> </head> <body bgcolor="#ffffff" text="#000000"> On the Evolution Note, Why are we required to have 'evolution' in the first place? I vote to dump it out of the "standard" install and install something that actually works, for example, Thunderbird. Since Firefox is the default browser, why not have Thunderbird as the default email client, then for those who are insistent on using the other buggy product, let them install it as an option. Just my 2 cents. <pre class="moz-signature" cols="80">SilverTungsten ________________________________________________________ Windows .- .- .- .- .Where do you want to go today? MacOSX .- .- .- .- .-Where do you want to be tomorrow? Linux .- .- .- .- .- Are you coming or what? </pre> On 1/26/2011 3:26 AM, <a class="moz-txt-link-abbreviated" href="mailto:ubuntu-devel-discuss-request@lists.ubuntu.com">ubuntu-devel-discuss-request@lists.ubuntu.com</a> wrote: <blockquote cite="mid:mailman.11265.1296034013.22713.ubuntu-devel-discuss@lists.ubuntu.com" type="cite"> <pre wrap="">Send Ubuntu-devel-discuss mailing list submissions to <a class="moz-txt-link-abbreviated" href="mailto:ubuntu-devel-discuss@lists.ubuntu.com">ubuntu-devel-discuss@lists.ubuntu.com</a> To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit <a class="moz-txt-link-freetext" href="https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-devel-discuss">https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-devel-discuss</a> or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to <a class="moz-txt-link-abbreviated" href="mailto:ubuntu-devel-discuss-request@lists.ubuntu.com">ubuntu-devel-discuss-request@lists.ubuntu.com</a> You can reach the person managing the list at <a class="moz-txt-link-abbreviated" href="mailto:ubuntu-devel-discuss-owner@lists.ubuntu.com">ubuntu-devel-discuss-owner@lists.ubuntu.com</a> When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific than "Re: Contents of Ubuntu-devel-discuss digest..." Today's Topics: 1. Re: minimalist KDE in natty (Felix Miata) 2. Major bug in intel xserver driver on ubuntu 10.10 (Liam2) 3. Re: minimalist KDE in natty (Jim Kielman) 4. Re: Evolution in Ubuntu (Paul Smith) 5. Re: minimalist KDE in natty (Felix Miata) 6. Re: minimalist KDE in natty (Robert Simmons) 7. Re: Evolution in Ubuntu (Thomas Novin) ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Message: 1 Date: Tue, 25 Jan 2011 08:36:34 -0500 From: Felix Miata <a class="moz-txt-link-rfc2396E" href="mailto:mrmazda@earthlink.net"><mrmazda@earthlink.net></a> To: <a class="moz-txt-link-abbreviated" href="mailto:ubuntu-devel-discuss@lists.ubuntu.com">ubuntu-devel-discuss@lists.ubuntu.com</a> Subject: Re: minimalist KDE in natty Message-ID: <a class="moz-txt-link-rfc2396E" href="mailto:4D3ED1E2.9030805@earthlink.net"><4D3ED1E2.9030805@earthlink.net></a> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed On 2011/01/25 00:17 (GMT-0800) Michael Casadevall composed: </pre> <blockquote type="cite"> <pre wrap="">Felix Miata wrote: </pre> </blockquote> <pre wrap=""> </pre> <blockquote type="cite"> <blockquote type="cite"> <pre wrap=""> Is there a meta package to accomplish this? I don't want libreoffice, pim or desktop search, just enough KDE to have a functional DTE. So far from a minimal install I've apt-get installed akonadi-server, libakonadi-dde4, dbus-x11, libqt4-dbus, kdebase-bin, kdebase-data, kdebase-runtime, kdebase-runtime-data, kdeartwork, kdebase-workspace, kdebase-workspace-bin, kdebase-workspace-data, libkdecore5, libkworkspace4, plasma-desktop, xorg, xserver-xorg, xserver-xorg-video-intel and a whole bunch of other kde*, libk*& *x11* packages, but all I get is a blank screen with mouse cursor after logging in via KDM or running startx. No other DTE is installed. Alternatively, can someone see in <a class="moz-txt-link-freetext" href="http://fm.no-ip.com/Tmp/Linux/Buntu/xsession-errors">http://fm.no-ip.com/Tmp/Linux/Buntu/xsession-errors</a> what the problem is well enough to tell me something else that needs to be installed? </pre> </blockquote> </blockquote> <pre wrap=""> </pre> <blockquote type="cite"> <pre wrap="">It's been awhile, but I *think* if you do a basic install (like server with no extra packages) and do "sudo apt-get install --no-install-recommends kubuntu-desktop" it should only pull in the basic set of packages. Failing that, you should be able to install just the session package and then cherrypick what you want, but I'll have to look up what you need. </pre> </blockquote> <pre wrap=""> 21 more packages it wants: kde-zeroconf kdegames-card-data kdemultimedia-kio-plugins kdepasswd khelpcenter4 kmix kpat kubuntu-desktop kubuntu-netbook-default-settings language-selector-qt libdiscid0 libkcddb4 libkdegames5 libmusicbrainz3-6 libneon27-gnutls libokularcore1 libpoppler-qt4-3 okular phonon-backend-gstreamer plasma-netbook software-properties-kde Surely some of these shouldn't be requirements, e.g. *netbook* or *games*. I tried just khelpcenter4, libdiscid0, okular, libpoppler-qt4-3, software-properties-kde, language-selector-qt. Still no go, but .xsession-errors size went down 3/4 to 32k. Maybe KDE is currently broken? </pre> </blockquote> </body> </html>