Was the name/username entry broken to begin with? If so, for what population? Dan <blockquote type="cite">On Feb 28, 2010 9:52 AM, "Bruno Girin" <<a href="mailto:brunogirin@gmail.com">brunogirin@gmail.com</a>> wrote: On Sun, 2010-02-28 at 09:53 -0400, Derek Broughton wrote: > Thomas Templin wrote: > > > > > I woul...Agreed. Add to this that the concept of name, surname, first name, last name, etc is also language and culture specific and it's a lot better to keep it generic and simple. Here are some examples of full names from different places: US: Harry Downey Jr => given name + family name + suffix Spanish speaking world: Gabriel Garcia Marquez => given name + 2 family names (from the mother and the father) Middle East: Mohammed bin Rachid al Makhtoum => given name + father's name + family (tribe) name Asia: Mao Zedong => family name + given name Europe: John Smith => given name + family name So "Full Name" is the only solution that really works. As for the other one, "Short Name" tries to be less technical than "Login Name" or "User Name" but becomes very confusing as it's not something that people would recognise: you never get asked for your short name in normal life so why would your computer ask you for it? It makes sense to ask for something technical like "login name" or "user name" because it is then obvious that it is related to the computer. Furthermore, the concept of login name or user name is consistent with what you're being asked for on all web sites that require you to register. Nickname is not a good substitute either because a lot of people don't consider themselves as having a nickname or may not feel like they want to use to nickname they were given at school, even they like it. If there is an issue of making people understand what a "user name" is, it might be better to have a short piece of explanatory text above the field, such as "Your computer needs to be able to recognise you as a user, so you need to provide it with a name you will use every time you want to use it." (I don't like that sentence but I can't find anything better) My Ł0.02 Bruno -- Ubuntu-devel-discuss mailing list <a href="mailto:Ubuntu-devel-discuss@lists.ubuntu.com">Ubuntu-devel-discuss@lists.ubuntu.com</a> Modify settings or un... </blockquote>