<!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 4.0 TRANSITIONAL//EN"> <HTML> <HEAD> <META HTTP-EQUIV="Content-Type" CONTENT="text/html; CHARSET=UTF-8"> <META NAME="GENERATOR" CONTENT="GtkHTML/3.26.0"> </HEAD> <BODY> Basically just cause you are facing some (minor in my opinion) problems, you want to stop the Karmic release 3 days before its due date ? Come on !!! <TABLE CELLSPACING="0" CELLPADDING="0" WIDTH="100%"> <TR> <TD> </TD> </TR> </TABLE> <BLOCKQUOTE TYPE=CITE> <PRE> Hi all, I am using Ubuntu since 3 Years. I would consider myself as a advanced linux-user and professional software developer. Just to check the new version, I migrated two 9.4 Systems to 9.10 and installed a Karmic Beta on a fresh system. </PRE> </BLOCKQUOTE> Beta software by definition do have bugs and issues. I have been using the beta myself on my office desktop, and I didn't face any showstoppers. <BLOCKQUOTE TYPE=CITE> <PRE> Now (3 days before the release) karmic seems to be unready. Even if the system is stable, I found many bugs and inconsistent issues. On several systems there are error messages with timeouts. "waiting for /disk/uuid/23wefsdfsdtgqweqrqwe" or so. When the ugly white ubuntu logo disappears i get some normal status messages and the the screen gets dark for 15 Seconds until dark and unfriendly login screen appears. After all... I have the imagination, that the boot process is not faster. </PRE> </BLOCKQUOTE> Clearly you seem more unhappy with the new artwork, than concerned with that bug. Nevertheless you can always file a bug report, and with a little luck it could be fixed a little after the final release. <BLOCKQUOTE TYPE=CITE> <PRE> The user dialogs for several subsystems are not ready yet. For example... the old dialogs for setting detailed user rights or changing the welcome screen are not included. </PRE> </BLOCKQUOTE> As far as I know, the new GDM made the old "welcome screen setting dialog" obsolete. Eventually a new tool would be included in a future release, or someone (why not yourself?) can make such tool and make it available to the community. <BLOCKQUOTE TYPE=CITE> <PRE> On two systems with Nvidia cards, the hardware detection tells me that no proprietary drivers are needed. Nvidia drivers must be installed by hand. </PRE> </BLOCKQUOTE> Both my laptop and desktop have Nvidia cards, and they are working properly. Ubuntu offered me to install proprietary drivers, I did that on the laptop but chose to use open source drivers on the desktop. So again file a bug about your specific problem, clearly it's not a general one. <BLOCKQUOTE TYPE=CITE> <PRE> The greatest mess is pulseausio. Usually I uninstall pulseaudio. Otherwise I can not use mpd and flash crashes randomly. In Karmic pulsaudio seems to be even more buggy. Eample: I have a realtek onboard soundcard and an a USB headset. Alsa seems to initialize both cards correctly. But pulseaudio randomly detects sometimes only one card, both cards or no card at all. Why don't you use alsa by default? </PRE> </BLOCKQUOTE> Join the crowd complaining about Pulseaudio. The think is I really do see a lot of improvement since pulseaudio was included by default in Ubuntu. I agree there are some annoying glitches, but no showstoppers nonetheless. <BLOCKQUOTE TYPE=CITE> <PRE> I really like to persuade people to use ubuntu. But as long as it looks unready it will strengthen their opinion, that linux is only for nerds. Pleas learn your lesson from the debian community and release a new version only if its ready. </PRE> </BLOCKQUOTE> You are free to use Debian ! Thanks, <TABLE CELLSPACING="0" CELLPADDING="0" WIDTH="100%"> <TR> <TD> -- Mohammed Bassit <<A HREF="mailto:webceo123@gmail.com">webceo123@gmail.com</A>> </TD> </TR> </TABLE> </BODY> </HTML>