<div class="gmail_quote">2009/6/16 Danny Piccirillo <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:danny.piccirillo@ubuntu.com">danny.piccirillo@ubuntu.com</a>></span><br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="border-left: 1px solid rgb(204, 204, 204); margin: 0pt 0pt 0pt 0.8ex; padding-left: 1ex;">
Wait, I have a new proposal! Let's <b>not</b> include Empathy in Karmic, but plan on including it in Karmic +1 (and <i>announce</i> this)<div><br></div><div>Why? Well, it will still give Empathy the attention it needs from developers to fix the bugs that would be considered regressions during the switch without actually replacing Pidgin before they're fixed. Aren't i brilliant? </div>
<div><br></div><div><i>On the other hand</i>, it might <b>still</b> be preferable to include Empathy in Karmic to have more of a guarantee that bugs will be fixed in time for the 10.04 LTS release. As someone <a href="http://pinstack.blogspot.com/2009/06/replace-pidgin-with-empathy-in-karmic.html?showComment=1245133369575#c6152600795066756079" target="_blank">commented on my last post</a>: </div>
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Empathy has been the top active project in Gnome for the last few weeks, with about 100 commits a week on average. The pace of development is astounding. Once the move to Empathy is the default, Ubuntu can start depending on it for other applications' communication needs (using Tubes). Gnome Games are getting Tubes support. Vino just got Tubes support, meaning that you can share your desktop with your contacts in Empathy.</blockquote>
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I understand why 8.04 didn't ship with Empathy, but the change needs to happen. Empathy is 95% there. The needed changes can be made before Karmic if Ubuntu (and Canonical) commits to it. If 9.10 ships with Empathy, all the major bugs will be worked out by 10.04. Who wants to add yet ANOTHER new technology to another LTS.</blockquote>
</div><div><br></div><div>So, what shall it be? <a href="http://pinstack.blogspot.com/2009/06/empathy-in-ubuntu-karmic-910-or-karmic.html" target="_blank">Karmic 9.10, or Karmic +1 10.04 LTS</a>? </div><div><div><div></div>
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</blockquote></blockquote></div></div></div></blockquote><div><br> </div></div>This would be a pretty bad move regarding Ubuntu's development model. With a 6-month release cycle, things <i>need</i> to remain cutting edge. If every release is just going to be a rehash of a previous one, then Canonical should be releasing at least yearly.<br>
<br>I'm sure you can tolerate installing Pidgin from the package manager until Karmic+1 :)<br><br>Odysseus<br>