Just blogged this here: <a href="http://pinstack.blogspot.com/2009/06/replace-pidgin-with-empathy-in-karmic.html">http://pinstack.blogspot.com/2009/06/replace-pidgin-with-empathy-in-karmic.html</a><div> </div><div>I referenced Rick and Nicolò-- hope that's okay with you two! <div class="gmail_quote">On Mon, Jun 15, 2009 at 18:22, Rick Spencer <<a href="mailto:rick.spencer@canonical.com">rick.spencer@canonical.com</a>> wrote: <blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex;"> I think switching to empathy is a fairly substantial change, and people in good faith will and should question that change. However, given Danny's points, the fact that pidgin will stay available and supported, the responsiveness of the empathy developers, indeed all the factors discussed at UDS, I see no reason to back off from the decision made there. Cheers, Rick <div><div></div><div class="h5"> On Mon, 2009-06-15 at 18:00 -0400, Danny Piccirillo wrote: > Ah, yes-- this discussion will keep coming up until it finally happens > =] > <a href="http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=7462614" target="_blank">http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=7462614</a> > > > IMHO Empathy is great for most users, especially new ones, and it can > replace poth pidgin AND ekiga. It lacks the basic features like the > ones you mentioned, but i don't think they are showstoppers and > including it in Karmic or the next release i'm sure would guarantee > that all of those would be resolved within the release cycle. It is > simple and integrates well, and we want to make Ubuntu friendly for > NEW users. Old users who prefer the clutter and feature madness of > pidgin will simply install it from Add/Remove (or not even have to if > they run an upgrade). If Ubuntu switched to Empathy, it's development > is going to get a big boost so the feature gap will close and > eventaully reverse. Are people really defending Pidgin for the future > of Ubuntu or as their pet IM client? > > On Mon, Jun 1, 2009 at 15:35, Nicolò Chieffo > <<a href="mailto:nicolo.chieffo@gmail.com">nicolo.chieffo@gmail.com</a>> wrote: > Hello everyone, I'm really interested in the new version of > empathy > which will have video and audio support. > This will be a really great feature and a step towards a > complete IM experience. > > But on the other hand I'm quite worried of the empathy and > telepathy > status about basic features, which seem to be put aside in > favor of > new and strange ones. > Maybe developers should help to implement them before empathy > will > replace pidgin, or lots of users will loose useful stuff like: > * Rich text messages (underline, bold, font, ...) > * Custom emoticons > * Protocol emoticons > * Msn chat with invisible users > * Msn send and receive offline messages > * Msn see windows live messenger buddy icons (only new > versions of 2009) > * Msn file transfers > > -- > Ubuntu-devel-discuss mailing list > <a href="mailto:Ubuntu-devel-discuss@lists.ubuntu.com">Ubuntu-devel-discuss@lists.ubuntu.com</a> > Modify settings or unsubscribe at: > <a href="https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-devel-discuss" target="_blank">https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-devel-discuss</a> > > > > -- > <a href="http://www.google.com/profiles/danny.piccirillo" target="_blank">http://www.google.com/profiles/danny.piccirillo</a> </div></div></blockquote></div> -- <a href="http://www.google.com/profiles/danny.piccirillo">http://www.google.com/profiles/danny.piccirillo</a> </div>