Someone from Access chimed in on this one, glad he's getting paid to dick around like this. <div class="gmail_quote">On Mon, Jun 8, 2009 at 11:48 AM, Remco <<a href="mailto:remco47@gmail.com">remco47@gmail.com</a>> wrote: <blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="border-left: 1px solid rgb(204, 204, 204); margin: 0pt 0pt 0pt 0.8ex; padding-left: 1ex;"><div class="im">On Mon, Jun 8, 2009 at 7:53 PM, Derek Broughton<<a href="mailto:derek@pointerstop.ca">derek@pointerstop.ca</a>> wrote: > Remco wrote: > >> On Mon, Jun 8, 2009 at 4:06 PM, Mackenzie Morgan<<a href="mailto:macoafi@gmail.com">macoafi@gmail.com</a>> wrote: >>> Perhaps I misunderstand why the term "application framework" is any >>> better than a pile of libraries and languages that work together, but I >>> think it'd be extremely difficult for Microsoft to try to argue that .NET >>> is older than GTK+, Qt, C, C++, and Python. >> >> We're still being a Microsoft technology user, which is what Mark >> Shuttleworth didn't want, and is the reason why Wine is not included >> in Ubuntu. > > It's not? When did that happen? > > $ apt-cache policy wine > wine: > Installed: (none) > Candidate: 1.0.1-0ubuntu6 > Version table: > 1.0.1-0ubuntu6 0 > 500 <a href="http://archive.ubuntu.com" target="_blank">http://archive.ubuntu.com</a> jaunty/universe Packages > -- > derek </div>Oh, so now Ubuntu also comes with Windows Media, H.264 and DivX? You can find those in the repositories as well. Maybe we should call MPEG-LA that there is big patent infringement going on here... Of course not. The repositories are not part of the default install, and should not be treated as such. Remco <div><div></div><div class="h5"> -- Ubuntu-devel-discuss mailing list <a href="mailto:Ubuntu-devel-discuss@lists.ubuntu.com">Ubuntu-devel-discuss@lists.ubuntu.com</a> Modify settings or unsubscribe at: <a href="https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-devel-discuss" target="_blank">https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-devel-discuss</a> </div></div></blockquote></div> -- Paige Adele Thompson Mobile: 206-446-630 E-mail/GTalk: <a href="mailto:erratic@devel.ws">erratic@devel.ws</a>