Intrepid+1 approaches-- is it too late to reconsider Empathy for inclusion? I just tried the newest version of Empathy and things look a lot better! File transfers now work and it picks up my webcam/mic! <div class="gmail_quote"> On Wed, Aug 20, 2008 at 4:52 PM, Matthew Paul Thomas <<a href="mailto:mpt@canonical.com">mpt@canonical.com</a>> wrote: <blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="border-left: 1px solid rgb(204, 204, 204); margin: 0pt 0pt 0pt 0.8ex; padding-left: 1ex;"> <div class="Ih2E3d">-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 </div>Laurent Bigonville wrote on 08/08/08 21:12: >... <div class="Ih2E3d">> Empathy[1] will be part of the upcoming GNOME 2.24 desktop. > The ubuntu desktop team considers using it instead of Pidgin for > intrepid as default IM client. If you are running intrepid, please give > empathy a test and report bugs to launchpad[2]. </div>>... To help in this decision, I have evaluated the usability of Empathy and Pidgin, and written up my findings. <<a href="https://wiki.ubuntu.com/EmpathyVsPidginUsability" target="_blank">https://wiki.ubuntu.com/EmpathyVsPidginUsability</a>> In summary, I suggest that Ubuntu continue using Pidgin by default for Intrepid, and that we reconsider Empathy for Intrepid+1. Empathy currently does a couple of big things Pidgin does not (audio and video chat), and handles one big feature much better than Pidgin (chat logging). But I found most features were more obvious in Pidgin, especially account setup, which is important for anyone who will start using IM in Intrepid. (And people who were already using either Empathy or Pidgin in a previous version of Ubuntu will continue using the same program in Intrepid anyway, regardless of our decision.) I found dozens of small learnability and efficiency problems in both programs, and I have not yet had time to report them all as bugs. If anyone would like to help out with this, especially in finding bugs that have already been reported, I'd greatly appreciate it. (Wherever the wiki page says "()", it needs a link to a bug report.) Cheers - -- Matthew Paul Thomas <a href="http://mpt.net.nz/" target="_blank">http://mpt.net.nz/</a> <div class="Ih2E3d">-----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.6 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - <a href="http://enigmail.mozdev.org" target="_blank">http://enigmail.mozdev.org</a> </div>iD8DBQFIrJIj6PUxNfU6ecoRAgHOAKCMNPqz15lfIkvKSlOhvkhpDdcy3ACgueHC DX06VJtu0JXEZHeibFY4gA8= =9uzC -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- <div class="Ih2E3d"> -- ubuntu-desktop mailing list <a href="mailto:ubuntu-desktop@lists.ubuntu.com">ubuntu-desktop@lists.ubuntu.com</a> </div><a href="https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-desktop" target="_blank">https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-desktop</a> </blockquote></div>