<html><head><style type="text/css"></style></head><body><div style="font-family:times new roman,new york,times,serif;font-size:14pt"> <div style="font-family: times new roman,new york,times,serif; font-size: 14pt;"><div style="font-family: times new roman,new york,times,serif; font-size: 12pt;">Completely agree with you. <div style="font-family: times new roman,new york,times,serif; font-size: 14pt;"><div style="font-family: times new roman,new york,times,serif; font-size: 14pt;"><div style="font-family: arial,helvetica,sans-serif; font-size: 10pt;"> On my EX linux network I made a server (under rsync and apache) for upgrading. in the meanwhile (changing conf files) I can't lose bandwith because every client try to update from internet. THIS IS NOT GOOD. not everyone has an ADSL connection, but so many uses synaptic to create an "update script" for downloading upgrades one times only and share between clients. Another point. So many people PAY for them ADSL connection every MB sent/received, and they might don't like to spent money for updates! And the last point. Now I'm writing with my GPRS modem connection. So REALLY I DON'T LIKE TO LOSE BANDWITH IN UPDATES. In 15 days my ADSL will be back, and I will update my system. So please, let the user know if HIS system is going to get updates from internet. This is a useful system, but people should know if they really want it! (and another point, I promise, this is the last one) If I get updates when 'mI installing my ubuntu, how many *YEARS* the installation took in my 56k connection? I use ubuntu because I can install my system in 20 minutes, and update when I'm working on it. So, this is not a bad thing, in my opinion people should only MAKE THEM CHOICES!!! Ubuntu system should ask them!!! Best regards and have a nice year to everyone! Gianfranco <hr size="1">Da: Manish Sinha <manishsinha.tech@gmail.com> A: ubuntu-devel-discuss@lists.ubuntu.com Inviato: Venerdì 26 dicembre 2008, 8:31:58 Oggetto: Re: You lost a new Ubuntu user nergar wrote: > If such a thing is implemented, it should be checked by default and > hidden in the Advanced settings dialog. Unexperienced users should get > security updates by default. > > Sounds like "Windows Update" which is enabled by default, it even quietly connects to the internet in the background, downloads security and other updates without my consent. Eats up my precious bandwidth when I can get those updates via CD from another computer. If its in the Advanced settings, then the whole aim of providing this checkbox is defeated. In such a case only advanced users can know about it. If this checkbox is for advanced users, then no need of putting this checkbox as advanced users can simply pull off their internet cables during installation. This feature was aimed for n00bs who don't know much about ubuntu/linux and bandwidth is also precious for them. Does hiding the checkbox in "Advanced Settings" serve any purpose? BTW some people said earlier in this topic itself, that installer download language packs for internationalization support. It does not fit into security updates, then why not put this checkbox is a clearly visible place but keep it checked by default. -- Manish Sinha Personal Blog: <a rel="nofollow" target="_blank" href="http://www.manishsinha.info">http://www.manishsinha.info</a> Tech Blog: <a rel="nofollow" target="_blank" href="http://manishtech.wordpress.com">http://manishtech.wordpress.com</a> OpenPGP Key: 99E6658F -- Ubuntu-devel-discuss mailing list <a rel="nofollow" ymailto="mailto:Ubuntu-devel-discuss@lists.ubuntu.com" target="_blank" href="mailto:Ubuntu-devel-discuss@lists.ubuntu.com">Ubuntu-devel-discuss@lists.ubuntu.com</a> Modify settings or unsubscribe at: <a rel="nofollow" target="_blank" href="https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-devel-discuss">https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-devel-discuss</a> </div></div></div> </div></div></div> </body></html>