<div class="gmail_quote">On Sun, Jun 8, 2008 at 7:43 PM, Darren Albers <<a href="mailto:dalbers@gmail.com">dalbers@gmail.com</a>> wrote: <blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="border-left: 1px solid rgb(204, 204, 204); margin: 0pt 0pt 0pt 0.8ex; padding-left: 1ex;"> Since F-Spot is installed by default Mono is now part of the base install. So outside of all the debate around Mono, have we considered installing Banshee as the default media player in Intrepid now that Banshee 1.0 is released? There are a couple of positives to using Banshee by default over Rhythmbox: 1) Complete iPod support (Rythmbox only supports reading from iPods) 2) Large support for reading and writing from various media players. 3) Integration with Brasero for burning audio disks 4) Can rip audio from CD's 5) Built-in support for <a href="http://last.fm" target="_blank">last.fm</a> Downsides: 1) Seems to have more dependencies than Rythmbox 2) To have the iPod support we need Podsleuth. 3) Banshee uses up around twice as much memory as Rythmbox: 45 megs to 23 megs on my system. 4) Rythmbox has more out of the box streaming audio sites. If we use Banshee we can get rid of Sound Juicer and gain iPod support out of the box. If we use Banshee we can say to people: "Yes, your iPod or other digital music player will work out of the box. Just plug it in and go." I know this will trigger a huge debate on Mono but that really is off-topic since the decision to use F-Spot in Hardy brought Mono in. If there is some positive feedback to this I can write up a spec on launchpad. Thanks! -- Ubuntu-devel-discuss mailing list <a href="mailto:Ubuntu-devel-discuss@lists.ubuntu.com">Ubuntu-devel-discuss@lists.ubuntu.com</a> Modify settings or unsubscribe at: <a href="https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-devel-discuss" target="_blank">https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-devel-discuss</a></blockquote><div> All I'm going to add is, I just noticed I can remove rhythmbox without taking out ubuntu-desktop in the process - thank you! And sound juicer too \o/ What a happy day. </div></div>