Most Clients for X program just us UPnP these days, so most people are understandably spoiled by it. <div class="gmail_quote">On Jan 2, 2008 12:02 PM, Fergal Daly <<a href="mailto:fergal@esatclear.ie">fergal@esatclear.ie </a>> wrote: <blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="border-left: 1px solid rgb(204, 204, 204); margin: 0pt 0pt 0pt 0.8ex; padding-left: 1ex;"><div class="Ih2E3d">On 02/01/2008, Mackenzie Morgan <<a href="mailto:macoafi@gmail.com"> macoafi@gmail.com</a>> wrote: > On Jan 2, 2008 6:23 AM, Fergal Daly <<a href="mailto:fergal@esatclear.ie">fergal@esatclear.ie</a>> wrote: > > > If your setup is relatively straight-forward or you are able to open > > ports on your firewall then you don't have be SIP expert to get it > > working - I know nothing about SIP I got it to work by following the > > docs, > > > > I'm going to go ahead and lose all my geek points now. I don't know how to > open ports on my router. I certainly don't expect that any normal user > does. </div>Then I'm not sure how you got any of the other SIP clients to work. As I understand it, unless the machine yon which you are running the SIP client has a publicly accessible IP address, you will not be able to use SIP unless you have a way to twiddle your router. The problem is that the voice data travels in UDP packets directly between you and the other person on the call. If you don't have a public IP address - say you are using NAT with a wireless router then the packets will arrive at your router and it will not know what to do with them - they could be for any of the machines on your wireless network. If you "open the port" (or rather "forward the port") on the router, you are telling your router, if any packets arrive on port number XYZ, send them to my computer. This will allow SIP to work for you and is independent of what SIP client you use. If one of you has a public IP address and the other a NATted one then if the NATted one startes sending the packets first, their router will see there is a conversation going on and allow the packets to flow. If both of you have NATted IP addresses then neither of you can start the conversation. With certain routers, there are tricks you can do to get around this but many many routers have no work around. Skype gets around this by sending your conversation through a 3rd computer out on the internet which has a publicly accessible IP address. All packets between the 2 chat clients go via this computer. So actually there are 2 UDP packet flows, which this 3rd computer joins together. You can also get around this if your router can run a SIP proxy. I'm curious if you got some other SIP client to work without problems. I had the same set of problems with twinkle as with ekiga, F > > -- <div class="Ih2E3d">> Mackenzie Morgan > Linux User #432169 > ACM Member #3445683 > <a href="http://ubuntulinuxtipstricks.blogspot.com" target="_blank">http://ubuntulinuxtipstricks.blogspot.com </a> <-my blog of > Ubuntu stuff > apt-get moo </div>-- <div><div></div><div class="Wj3C7c">Ubuntu-devel-discuss mailing list <a href="mailto:Ubuntu-devel-discuss@lists.ubuntu.com">Ubuntu-devel-discuss@lists.ubuntu.com </a> Modify settings or unsubscribe at: <a href="https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-devel-discuss" target="_blank">https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-devel-discuss</a> </div></div></blockquote> </div> -- Cheers, Bryan