<div class="gmail_quote">---------- Forwarded message ---------- From: Tony Yarusso <<a href="mailto:tonyyarusso@gmail.com">tonyyarusso@gmail.com</a>> Date: Dec 13, 2007 6:57 PM Subject: Re: Fwd: Mono (Re: New Programs for Hardy?) To: <a href="mailto:sounder@lists.ubuntu.com">sounder@lists.ubuntu.com</a>, <a href="mailto:ubuntu-devel-discuss@ubuntu.com">ubuntu-devel-discuss@ubuntu.com</a> I don't know much about the technical details of Mono, but I can say this: a) I don't care about "potential, maybe, vaguely insinuated" patent threats - unless MS actually starts giving evidence, even discussing this is falling prey to the FUD, just like they want us to. b) F-Spot and Tomboy are great apps, and definitely helpful for a large number of users. Ignoring the issues of whether Mono is the "best" use of space, treated for their own merits they are worthy of default inclusion. c) Given our usual policy of shipping one application per task, dropping gThumb and Sticky Notes from the default installation probably makes sense, and perhaps this will help with some part of the space concerns. Additionally, Scribus and Inkscape are also pretty cool, but adding a Qt dependency to a Gnome install makes no sense. Now, if Kubuntu wants to look at these that might be a decent idea, and could provide a unique attraction to the Kubuntu member of the Ubuntu family. Finally, I would very much like to see two things included by default, and hope that space can be found on the CD for them: 1.) Seahorse - security is important, and the easier we make it, the more people will actually bother to do it 2.) Conduit - this seems like the way for things to go overall; the more integration and synchronization the desktop can get with _everything_, the better. (I should also note at this point that if we're going to keep shipping Rhythmbox by default, someone should really see to it that it gets two-way transfer support for iPods included before the next release - a feature included in Exaile and Banshee already, and which I've heard rumored is available in CVS already.) -- Tony Yarusso <a href="http://blog.tonyyarusso.com/" target="_blank">http://blog.tonyyarusso.com/</a> </div> -- Tony Yarusso <a href="http://blog.tonyyarusso.com/">http://blog.tonyyarusso.com/</a>