Proposal: Let's drop i386

Bryce Larson brycelarsn at cs.byu.edu
Sat May 12 17:35:41 UTC 2018


I don't know if we should base our decisions off of what microsoft does, but I would expect ubuntu to support 32 bit at least as long as windows does.  I would also expect the 32 bit lubuntu and minimal installers to stick around longer than the other flavors/spins.  I couldn't find a conclusive answer on when microsoft is ending support, but it seemed to be around 2025.

When I run stuff on 32 bit, it's usually to run a server for something simple like a file server or a local dhcp/dns server so the desktop doesn't matter much for me.

On May 12, 2018 10:23:21 AM MDT, Ralf Mardorf <ralf.mardorf at alice-dsl.net> wrote:
>>On 11 May 2018 at 16:32, Fiedler Roman <Roman.Fiedler at ait.ac.at>
>wrote:
>>> b) Those, who do not want to consume more resources due to ethical
>>> considerations (that's the one for me): how many people could fed or
>>> how much CO2 prevented, if all systems were some percent smaller on
>>> disk/RAM, including IT-system production and operation related
>>> resource usage? Wasting resources is also about freedom, as we
>>> deprive others who cannot afford them/fight for them in the same way
>>> we can do.
>
>As already pointed out by Dimitri, regarding getting a job done, a
>modern CPU requires much less power. Actually this could happen by two
>different ways. Much more processing power by less power consumption
>than an old 32bit computer or by much, much more processing power by
>similar high power consumption as an old 32bit computer. Modern
>computers are faster, work with causing less heat, require less
>voltage, are using faster buses, RAM, CPUs with better instruction sets
>etc..
>
>Another point of view are related to computer waste [1], slavery, rare
>earths, power consumption to produce new machines, while old machines
>might still do the job.
>
>Unfortunately another part to consider is the balance when maintaining
>an operating system and apps for a dead architecture. It also requires
>resources such as energy consumption, but also resources as wasting
>time
>a maintainer otherwise could use to do volunteer work e.g. by helping
>wheelchair users.
>
>[1]
>https://www.google.com/search?q=agbogbloshie+images&source=lnms&tbm=isch&sa=X&ved=0ahUKEwjQjcyEyIDbAhUEqaQKHRO7BmEQ_AUICigB&biw=1920&bih=919
>
>
>
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