Ubuntu Desktop Favorite Apps

[Ralf Mardorf]

On Sat, 22 Jul 2017 11:26:56 +0200, Xen wrote:
>Linux does not have a good single-window (no tabs) text editor.

Perhaps xfw is "good" for your purpose?

>The only viable solution for copy and pasting in terminals

Given that you could use the completion feature via tab-key and
history features via cursor-keys and replace parts of what you already
typed instead of retyping everything, you unlikely need coping from the
clipboard. E.g....

[rocketmouse at archlinux tmp]$ 123 "hallo"
bash: 123: command not found
[rocketmouse at archlinux tmp]$ ^123^ echo
 echo "hallo"
hallo
[rocketmouse at archlinux tmp]$ ls
[snip]
[rocketmouse at archlinux tmp]$ sudo !!
sudo ls
[sudo] password for rocketmouse: 
[snip]

I need to complain about the ongoing Windows vs Microsoft
discussions. When in Rome, do as the Romans do. IOW if you migrate from
Windows to Linux, please don't force native Windows users like me, to
migrate to Windows habits. I dislike that by default way too much
_wrong_ user-friendliness tends to Windows, iOS and Co restrictions.

In short, if you need to copy and paste much when using the terminal,
get used to another workflow.

>Another thing that has to be solved is running administrator-privilege 
>applications in the desktop. Having to use "kdesu" or "gksudo" or 
>equivalent is NOT acceptable. It has to be an automatic thing based on 
>standard tools. We MUST do away with the corruption that results from 
>forgetting to use these tools. Programs must also be written to allow 
>elevation while running, but that's a different discussion.

https://lists.archlinux.org/pipermail/arch-general/2017-July/043948.html

>You can delete something just fine when it is opened (the actual file
>is not deleted until all handles are closed) but you cannot unmount 
>anything, while the former action is clearly more destructive.

It is not nearly that destructive as risky unmounting is. An app might
currently not keep open a file via a needed mount point, so e.g. green
drives have time to sleep, but before closing the app, tons of data
might be written to a file via that mount point.

FWIW on my Linux installs you could only mount and unmount by command
line.

>1. A good, no-tabs notepad.

What is "good" for? Is e.g. syntax highlighting needed?

>2. Ctrl-shift-c no longer used to copy text in terminals.

Use the right-click instead or learn how to use a terminal without copy
and paste the desktop way at all.

>4. Allow editors and other such applications such as file managers to
>be elevated in-place.

This would be a step in the wrong direction. However, you at least
could run an editor without root privileges and save files with root
privileges, which does cause the confusion in the posted Arch mailing
list link above.

>5. Try to introduce a capabilities-based elevation system in which the 
>user can be informed as to what capabilities have been requested.

If a user needs a nanny, the user should use a restricted operating
system. If a user wants freedom, the user needs to learn how to use
freedom.

>7. Get rid of gksudo and kdesudo as separate applications.

Why don't you use pkexec or set up your environment in any other way,
if you dislike gksudo and kdesudo as separate applications?

If somebody does use an Ubuntu DE flavour with it's defaults, the user
don't need to care what is used at all.

>Oh and also try to ask users ;-).

Yes, ask users, but remember to ask native Linux users, don't care too
much about those who migrate from other operating systems.

Regards,
Ralf

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