Future and impact of ongoing projects in Linux world

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amon schreef op 14-10-2016 18:11:
> I am not going to continue with this other than to correct
> some really strange assumptions.
> 
> First, I was probably using Unix when the person who claims
> I must be amongst those who do not basics was still in nappies.
> 
> Second, none of those suggestions will find you anything if gvfs
> has not even been installed. apropos only searched man pages
> that are installed, the last I heard :-^

Thank you for your response amon. I believe Unix people often make this 
mistake indeed to consider that once you have already learned something, 
it is easy to find, but not understanding that those who have not yet 
encountered it or gone through it, have an impossible way getting there.


> No key words that were obvious to this old Unix hacker on the
> web mentioned gvfs. Unless you already know it exists, such as
> the particular person who is not recognizing the difference
> between what is obvious only if you know it, and has absolutely
> no links if you don't already have the right key words.

The only reason I knew it is because the gnome-disks application adds 
those options to fstab when you use it. No other reason.

The man page to mount (or rather, fstab) could mention it just fine as 
it mentions systemd-specific options as well.

The only thing that can discredit it is some anti-gnome sentiment in 
that sense.


> If you don't believe that, I suggest you go talk to a good
> technical writer or a librarian. Or an old Unix hand.

There is the belief in Unix that good developers cannot be good writers 
and good writers cannot be good developers. This is repeated ad inifitum 
to prove that there is a good reason that documentation is so bad, and 
then instead of solving it, they hide behind that 'fact' that they don't 
know how to do it. Meanwhile they criticize any and all attempt to put 
that information in there, and sabotage those attempts even. Sometimes I 
wonder whether I am not the one who is insane, and question my judgement 
in thinking these man pages are bad and knowing I could do much better, 
when no one agrees with it and they also do not even allow you to put 
the content in.

Beauty is in the eye of the beholder, they say. Anyway.


> It really is not a good idea to say things about people who
> might possibly know more than you do about Unix systems in
> general. I am an industry guy. I don't show up often. I get
> paid a lot for making systems jump through hoops. Sometimes
> when I find something odd, I feel it my duty to inform someone
> who may or may not do anything about it, but having taken
> a few of those expensive minutes of my day to so inform, I
> feel I have discharged my duty.

Much obliged ;-). And you're welcome :p.

Not ever done I guess (for me).