The Simple Things in Life

[Jason Benjamin]

I like John's idea too, but I also don't like the simple appearance of 
a system thrown together so extemporaneously that a simple "power user" 
could fix the bugs.  The hibernation is what really makes me irritated 
by Ubuntu.  I know, I read some posts from Linux Torvalds on the 
subject.  However it looks as simple to solve as reactivating the 
devices after restoring the memory.  I know that my laptop even though 
it's probably not supported hangs when restoring the display.  This 
could be because the splash screen is shown discounting the 
reactivation of the devices.  I don't have a desktop right now, but 
whenever my laptop is unplugged in the hibernation situation, that's 
when it has problems.  Otherwise it works fine, which could explain why 
the laptops are not usually supported.

This is so far the only Linux operating system I know of that has 
dedicated computer hardware with it preinstalled (though I could be 
proven wrong), so it would be great if the outside was as good as the 
inside.

On Tue, Jul 19, 2016 at 2:57 PM, Xen <list at xenhideout.nl> wrote:
> John Moser schreef op 19-07-2016 23:48:
> 
>> What Ubuntu needs most is a simple, non-buried toggle option to show
>> the boot process--including displaying the bootloader, displaying the
>> kernel load messages, and listing which services are loading and
>> already-loaded during the graphical boot.  Ubuntu's best current
>> feature is the Recovery boot mode, aside from not having a setting to
>> make this the standard boot mode sans the recovery prompt.  
>> "Blindside
>> the user with a confusing and meaningless boot process and terror at 
>> a
>> slight lag in boot time because the system may be broken" is not a
>> good policy for boot times longer than 1 second.
> 
> It's really quite obvious isn't it. But you don't need to see 
> everything.
> 
> See currently it is either all or nothing and that is how many people 
> seem to think.
> 
> Either you see a splash screen with no information at all (save 
> perhaps an encryption message or a leaked-through kernel command line 
> bug or error during the boot process) or you see all of the systemd 
> services starting and perhaps much more information as well.
> 
> Why not divide the boot process in 5 or 6 stages and then show the 
> user when each stage has been completed? SystemD already has stages 
> (targets) but it was not really meant for humans.
> 
> I mean how obvious is it that "one state" (such as the desktop being 
> loaded) is not informative enough, while "1000 states" may be much 
> too informative?
> 
> When do people learn to find the middle road?
> 
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