[nvidia-graphics-drivers] frustration with slow Nvidia drivers release schedule

Sergio Schvezov sergio.schvezov at canonical.com
Fri Sep 6 18:43:43 UTC 2013

On Fri, Sep 6, 2013 at 2:42 PM, Paulo Roberto de Oliveira Castro <
p.oliveira.castro at gmail.com> wrote:

> 2013/9/6 Jordon Bedwell <jordon at envygeeks.com>
>> On Fri, Sep 6, 2013 at 11:51 AM, Paulo Roberto de Oliveira Castro
>> <p.oliveira.castro at gmail.com> wrote:
>> > 2013/9/2 Jordon Bedwell <jordon at envygeeks.com>
>> >>
>> >> my suggestion is your realize the real facts
>> >> that all operating systems provide outdated drivers and it's your job
>> >> to update them if you want the latest drivers and to expect the distro
>> >> to be able to keep up like that is silly to say the least.
>> >
>> >
>> > That's a lie.
>> > On many other linux distro the drivers are in sync to upstream (or very
>> > close to it).
>> Sure it is if you consider RPMFusion official (and I don't even
>> remember properly if they carry it.)  I'll let you have that so I
>> don't have to explain known facts like the ones that are kind of
>> stated here:
>> https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Forbidden_items?rd=ForbiddenItems#NVIDIA_Proprietary_Graphics_Drivers
>> -- https://en.opensuse.org/SDB:NVIDIA_drivers  I'm no Fedora or
>> OpenSuse user so I'll take those as facts that pretty much imply that
>> it would be impossible for them to be in sync or close to in sync
>> which leaves Arch and all the others that I'm not willing to verify.
>> Did you pull this magic metric only from Arch and then claim somebody
>> else lied?  I only assume to ask that question because you did briefly
>> mention Arch.
>> > It's silly to think that a distro cannot  keep up like that, many
>> already
>> > do, and they work pretty well.
>> Almost as silly as you thinking it's Ubuntu's job to be your hardware
>> vendor and give you the latest drivers?
> Yes, I was talking about Arch and all Arch based distros (and some
> others), not Fedora or openSuSE. For me, using the word "many" for more
> then 3 things is not a lie. A lie is to ignore this distros and say "no OS
> do this".
> The OS-for-human-beings job is to make things easy for human beings. I
> think you haven't got that.
> It's should be easy to be up-to-date. It should be easy to upgrade your
> system. It should be easy to navigate.
> Everything should be easy.
> That's what successful mobile platforms are doing now and we must learn
> that from them.
> Average user don't even know what compile means. They don't even know what
> is a driver. They only want a faster PC, and delivering new GPU drivers do
> the job and make users happier to use their desktops.

Average users don't really care if they are on the latest vendor libraries,
they just want it to work and the OS/distro should be responsible for that.
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