Proposal to change default search engine

[Alexandre Strube]

Ok. Understanding this, what is the proposal? To change the default search
page of Ubuntu on all browsers?

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Alexandre Strube
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Em 24/06/2013 21:31, "Alexander Hanff" <a.hanff at think-privacy.com> escreveu:

> >I'll just leave this here:
> >
> http://www.guardian.co.uk/uk/2013/jun/21/gchq-cables-secret-world-communications-nsa
> >
> http://arstechnica.com/tech-policy/2013/06/new-leaks-british-intels-direct-from-fiber-taps-worse-than-the-us/
>
> GCHQ are UK Intelligence service and have zero jurisdiction in the
> Netherlands.  Whereas the Netherlands have been using PRISM - PRISM data is
> only applicable to US corporations, given Startpage are not in the US they
> have never been and cannot be forced to comply with an order from the
> Foreign Intelligence Surveillance Court so PRISM revelations regarding the
> Netherlands are irrelevant to this discussion on Startpage.
>
> >Sure they aren't.  But they are vulnerable to Dutch orders, and Article
> 125K of the Criminal code is mighty interesting.
>
> Dutch orders under Article 125K of the code you reference only permits
> investigations of a specific person and not the wholesale surveillance of
> all users.  Furthermore, orders under 125K can be challenged in the courts
> all the way to the European Court of Human Rights as well as the European
> Court of Justice.  Both these facts make the situation far more favourable
> than FISAAA and PATRIOT which we now know have been used for the wholesale
> surveillance of citizens' communications.
>
> All countries have surveillance laws, the issue is that the US have setup
> a secret court to interpret their law and block any legal challenges to
> those interpretations.  The EU is a completely different environment, laws
> are challenged and changed (such as the Regulation of Investigatory Powers
> Act 2000 which is the UK equivelant to the Dutch Criminal code you
> referenced) in the UK.
>
> >I also managed to find:
> >
> http://www.dutchnews.nl/news/archives/2013/06/dutch_security_service_has_rec.php
> >
> http://www.dutchnews.nl/news/archives/2013/06/no_prism_for_dutch_security_bo.php
>
> The changes being requested to Dutch law by Opstelten currently do not
> exist in statute and are unlikely to be passed given that they would put
> the Netherlands in breach of multiple EU Directives and Conventions
> including:
>
> Directive on Privacy and Electronic Communications 2002/58/EC;
> European Data Protection Directive 95/46/EC;
> European Convention on Human Rights and;
> Lisbon Treaty.
>
> With regards to Dutch access to PRISM see my comment at the top but also
> note that it is highly likely that the Dutch will be subject to
> infringement proceedings by the European Commission for this and that there
> is currently outrage amongst Dutch politicians and the citizens making it
> even less likely that such provisions will be passed into Dutch law.
>
> We cannot base decisions on laws which do not exist and are merely being
> discussed/drafted - the vast majority of Bills never make it into law and
> in this case given the issues with EU Directives, it would seem even less
> likely to happen.
>
> Regards,
>
> Alexander Hanff
>
>
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