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John Moser john.r.moser at
Wed Oct 17 21:34:31 UTC 2012

Doesn't look integrated into the default UI.  Workable, but not quite 
intuitive.  Things I'd prefer:

  - Shows the user and group ownership, instead of piling them is as 
just part of the ACL.  Remember these have special meanings for SUID/SGID.

  - First three ACL entries are always Owner, Group, and Other.

  - Integrate into the UI (Konqueror, Gnome)

  - "Apply ACL to Enclosed Files" button to apply the ACL all the way down.

  - Possibly "Apply Permissions to Enclosed Files" button for only UNIX 

i.e. something more obvious and intuitive.

On 10/17/2012 05:12 PM, Matt Wheeler wrote:
> It's called eiciel
> --
> Matt Wheeler
> m at <mailto:m at>
> On 17 Oct 2012 21:15, "John Moser" <john.r.moser at 
> <mailto:john.r.moser at>> wrote:
>     On Wed, Oct 17, 2012 at 3:52 PM, John Moser
>     <john.r.moser at <mailto:john.r.moser at>> wrote:
>     > First:  that's why we need an interface that handles POSIX ACLs
>     > properly, long-overdue.
>     >
>     It actually occurs to me that this is probably not just technically
>     important, but important for planning purposes.  That is, we can sit
>     here arguing all day about theoretical use cases, but everybody is
>     going to have differing opinions that lean in odd directions until
>     certain things are fixed.  Or in short, as long as POSIX ACLs require
>     a scout badge in command line comfort, discussing how to leverage
>     POSIX ACLs is pointless because people don't want to think two steps
>     out.
>     Let's see if we can get anything agreeable on that.  It'll probably
>     look strikingly like Windows' Security tab, except without supplying
>     Allow/Deny, fine grained special permissions (which don't exist), or
>     having all the Windows main permissions.  So, it'll look like the only
>     thing that makes sense in general, and specifically for Unix.  That
>     is, a few rows of controls for Owner, Group, and then a list box of
>     permissions with one row with three checkboxes per row for each user
>     (Owner, Group, Everyone, individual users/groups).
>     Can we get that?
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