CMake and Ruby1.9 for Ubuntu 12.04 LTS

[Ma Xiaojun]

On Wed, Nov 7, 2012 at 5:45 PM, Benjamin Drung <bdrung at ubuntu.com> wrote:
> I disagree. A new software version can bring new features, but also a
> lot of new bugs. There are even examples of new version that reduces the
> functionality to simplify the program.

True. Nautilus 3.6 is a notable example. The whole GNOME 3 stack can
be a downgrade for some people. Even GIMP 2.8 (Oops, it forces XCF
saving) or LibreOffice 3.6 (Oops, it removes old set of Impress
templates and switched to a entirely different one) can be arguable.

The problem is, do Ubuntu developers try to understand the issue in a
case-by-case manner? Or they should at least honestly ask users to
provide more information. I guess not.

> Do you have examples for your claim? The smaller the diff, the better.
> Cherry-picking a patch for a bug is more likely to get accepted than
> trying to push a new upstream version.

https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/texlive-base/+bug/1005710
https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/ibus/+bug/1072174
https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/ibus-table/+bug/1063948
https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/ibus-table-chinese/+bug/1063938

The last two bugs are not true SRU bugs yet and they are on my TODO
list. I hope I won't get WONTFIX eventually.

As I said before, judge by size is simple and naive. If you don't
understand what changed, at least ask. If you think test cases are not
good enough, at least ask. Don't waste people's time.

Philosophically, good changes don't have to be small.

> Using a PPA is a quicker and less time consuming solution for yourself.
> Following the SRU process takes more time, but then everyone can benefit
> from it.

I used to believe such ideas. However, after I filed / followed some
bugs and got WONTFIX eventually. (They were on my TODO list) I don't
think hoping for SRU is a smart thing any more.