EFF & Privacy; hopefully Ubuntu will listen to users

[Rodney Dawes]

On Mon, 2012-11-05 at 12:11 -0500, Scott Kitterman wrote:
> On Monday, November 05, 2012 11:53:03 AM Rodney Dawes wrote:
> ...
> > There were large changes to address some specific user concerns around
> > the dash search, that went in after various freezes were in effect.
> ...
> That's also true of the shopping bits of dash search itself, so without time 
> travel, having it be any way is impossible.  Perhaps if Canonical had decided 
> to work within the existing Ubuntu release process, this could have been 
> landed earlier with a lot less heat/light since there would have been lots of 
> time to consider the best approaches for various issues.


I don't know all the specifics of how they went in, or the exact course
of process they took, but I do know they landed after freezes, and part
of 'within the existing Ubuntu release process' includes 'sabdfl
override' which the feature itself may or may not have fallen under.

Either way, some of the changes landed extremely late (even after the
feature itself), to help address some of the user concerns. That was
the only point I'm making. I don't disagree that it would be better if
some of the teams would align better with the release process. It
certainly would be. However, there are also also some issues with doing
that as relates to the Canonical 'skunkworks' projects which Mark also
blogged about recently.

I don't know if it's been done before or not, but perhaps the Release
Team, and Tech Board, should take up any concerns related to some of the
Canonical projects' involvement in that process, with the appropriate
members of Canonical staff, including Mark (who is on TB anyway). Again,
another discussion that would have been great to have at UDS with
everyone in the same room, but which seems to perpetually get
complaints, and perhaps not discussed at appropriate times.