EFF & Privacy; hopefully Ubuntu will listen to users

[Jordon Bedwell]

On Mon, Nov 5, 2012 at 8:55 AM, Robie Basak <robie.basak at canonical.com> wrote:
> Forks happen when people disagree. Is there really any disagreement
> here? Have any privacy-related patches actually been rejected, or is it
> just that nobody has written them?

Patches being rejected are a bit narrow, when the Canonical lead
implies (at least to me and a few others) he does not care about
privacy in the default install and has not answered the many numerous
complaints with nothing more than "We are not violating the law" and
even going as far as ignoring the NTP issue... he speaks louder than
rejecting patches on a tracker.  This is from my perspective though
and I have not really followed all too closely since I am the type of
person to remove what I don't want and block stuff like Canonical's
NTP and other tracking via our hardware firewalls instead of
complaining about stuff that I myself can fix.  But to me and a few
others it's come to the point where it's becoming a side job and
eventually a lot of users will just take out.

> We've just had the Ubuntu Developer Summit during which the next release
> was planned, and everyone was welcome (both in person and online). I
> must have missed the session on privacy, or did nobody propose one?

I don't think there was one, I think this is a case of the few
speaking and protecting the many and the few not having the same power
as the many because some people won't do anything until the many step
up and embarrass the top brass.  What I am saying is, at this point I
am to believe that Canonical and Ubuntu do not care one bit about this
privacy cock up and they don't care that the few notice and are trying
to help the many.  They are probably gonna hold off until the many
step up and embarrass Canonical.

I think what Canonical and Ubuntu are doing is alienating old Linux
users who are used to telling their computers what to do, not having
their computer tell them what they are going to do and then them
having to step up and almost be like "no, fu** that noise, you will do
what I want, not what you want." (and again, this is from my
perspective, do feel free to correct me with pure fact if this is not
the case)