Possible inclusion of 'net-tools' into Ubuntu Core

[Kieran Grant]

On 06/12/12 01:57, Oliver Grawert wrote:
> hi,
> Am Mittwoch, den 05.12.2012, 22:17 +1000 schrieb Kieran Grant:
>> Based on the problems that Saqlain had
>>
(https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/ubuntu-devel-discuss/2012-December/014092.html)
>> and I initially had with Ubuntu core and using apt-get, I am wondering
>> if Ubuntu Core should include 'net-tools' (or a minimalist version) to
>> allow Ubuntu Core to be booted on a device and to actually be able to
>> setup, and connect to an Ubuntu archive server to pull from?
>>
>> Or, would it be better for this to be mentioned in the Ubuntu Core Wiki
>> page.
> the purpose of ubuntu-core is industrial use, use in IVI environments,
> service as a base for an image build or as a cheap chroot for devlopers
> that are to lazy to just use debootstrap.
>
> ubuntu-core is *not* an image and *not* supposed to be used as a rootfs
> without modification
>
> some of its dedicated use cases can be non networked or user-less
> systems, adding net-tools would break exactly that ...
>
> if you want a minimal system, take the mini iso and run an install, use
> debootstrap to roll a chroot, use live-build to roll a rootfs tarball,
> there are plenty of options to get to a usable rootfs.
Right-o, I'll have a look at those other uses and stop using Ubuntu Core
for that purpose, thanks!
>
> the purpose of ubuntu-core is simply different from what you are trying
> to use it for (provide the most minimal booatable system that can still
> run apt-get, this doesnt include users, sudo or networking at all)
>
> ciao
> oli