Proposal to delay release of Precise Pangolin
toppij at gmail.com
Wed Oct 19 04:21:02 UTC 2011
I really do think bugs will hurt the long term health of the project. Up
through 11.04 I had always gotten a few bugfixes with each upgrade. I had a
few random bugs that I was living with, but for the most part everything
worked. I had 3d acceleration with my nvidia card, I could use a second
monitor, I could close the lid to suspend the machine, and in general it
just behaved as expected. With 11.10 I lost the ability to suspend (now the
machine becomes non-responsive when I close the lid), I gained a 3d
rendering bug that was originally reported a month after 11.04 that affects
my second monitor, I cannot even rely on the pixmaps for my icons loading
because sometimes I get just get blank little rectangles. If I wanted
mysterious bugs I would have stuck with windows, most Linux advocates tout
stability however I cannot see doing that with 11.10. By any measure Gentoo
was more stable than this release :( .
Because no one else seemed willing to check, compact view does remove the
needless amount of margin, but also switches to a more list-like look and
changes the scrolling to horizontal. I checked in Nautilus 188.8.131.52 the
version that ships with 11.04 with all updates applied.
What kind of QA process is there before a release, how can I help with that?
On Tue, Oct 18, 2011 at 10:27 PM, Martin Owens <doctormo at gmail.com> wrote:
> On Tue, 2011-10-18 at 22:15 -0400, nick rundy wrote:
> > Yet the bug has existed for more than 3 years. Sadly, the same can be
> > said for many other bugs.
> To be fair to the bug:
> * No one answered the question 'did you try compact layout'
> * Nautilus is a 'special' codebase which I wouldn't want to touch again
> this side of the 21st century, ugly and duplicative spaghetti.
> * Anything to do with how something looks, workflow or speed is not
> going to get fixed by the fire fighters or cathedral builders.
> * These types of bugs are too big/complex for quick patches and too
> small or unimportant for critical attention.
> * Nouser continues to pay for bug fixes, no economics and no other
> relationship between programmer and user. The gnome programmer deals
> with bugs as he feels like it and expects patches.
> I understand your point Nick, I'd really like a cycle that focuses
> _only_ on bug fixing and nothing else. But I'd also like a cycle that
> took everyone off coding to train a 100 new kernel hackers and 50 new
> xorg slaves.
> If wishes could be put in dishes the world would be delicious.
> Best Regards, Martin Owens
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