Dump Google?

Conrad Knauer atheoi at gmail.com
Mon Sep 13 00:45:57 UTC 2010

On Sat, Sep 11, 2010 at 11:37 PM, Robert Holtzman <holtzm at cox.net> wrote:

>> >> > Google's archiving all searches isn't the only reason to dump it. If
>> >> > you are willing to use a search engine that censors web sites at
>> >> > China's whim go right ahead. Google puts their profit ahead of their
>> >> > stated support of the free flow of information. Only the lazy or those
>> >> > who are uninformed or lack principals use Google....and yes, I do use
>> >> > another search engine.
>> >>
>> >> Wow you really don't pay any attention to reality do you?
>> >>
>> >> Google did it's best NOT to bend to China.  But in order to maintain any
>> >> "official" presence at all in China they had to make available a
>> >> "Chinese  censorship approved" version of Google search.  They did their
>> >> best to  legally maintain the full search view for China.
>> >
>> > Up until the time the PRC threatened not to renew their license. Then
>> > they dropped their pants and bent over.
>> Actually, no they didn't.  They said screw it, and left.  The remaining .cn
>> is all in .com.hk, which has different laws.
> Running a search on "google + remains + china" turned up some sites (one
> dated Thursday July 1, 2010) saying they are still there but pointing
> out that the link to the HK site exists. Also, an Inquirer site says
> "However, while not quite toeing the red party line, Schmidt continued,
> "We continue to follow their laws, we continue to offer censored results
> but at a reasonable short time from now we'll be making some changes
> there."
> He added, "We'd like to do that on somewhat different terms than we have
> but we remain quite committed to being there."
> This is dated Fri Jan 22 2010 and I'm well aware that things could have
> changed drastically since then.
> Like I said, I stand by my statement.

Please see http://www.nytimes.com/2010/09/12/world/europe/12raids.html?_r=2&partner=rss&emc=rss&pagewanted=all
from today which describes a well-known evil corporation
(you-know-who) and makes mention of Google in China:

"In China, Microsoft has complied with censorship rules in operating
its Web search service, preventing Chinese users from easily accessing
banned information. Its archrival Google stopped following censorship
regulations there, and scaled back its operations inside China’s
Internet firewall."

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