Replace Shotwell (was F-Spot) with Solang?

[Alin-Andrei]

As far as I know, Solang was even removed from Debian due to it being highly
unstable.



On Thu, May 20, 2010 at 08:58, Danny Piccirillo <danny.piccirillo at ubuntu.com
> wrote:

> I'm forwarding this to the ubuntu-desktop list to see if they can
> point out why Shotwell was chosen over Solang, and whether it is too
> late to change this decision or postpone the change until Maverick+1
>
> On Sat, May 15, 2010 at 17:28, Laco Gubík <lacogubik at googlemail.com>
> wrote:
> > Hi,
> >
> > I would like to see this discussion by myself, but I cannot find.
> > Maybe it will appear here [1] in following days.
> > In terms off holding it until Maverick+1, I think that Canonical
> > considers non-LTS releases more like development releases, where they
> > do not mind if something is suboptimal. So they prefer to do changes
> > striaght after LTS release, so there is time to polish it until next
> > LTS. (On the other hand we have seen changes with significant impact
> > also in LTS, so one never know.).
> >
> > Regards
> >
> > Laco
> >
> On Sat, May 15, 2010 at 13:28, Danny Piccirillo
> <danny.piccirillo at ubuntu.com> wrote:
> > 2010/5/15 Marco Laverdière <marco.laverdiere at gmail.com>:
> >>
> >>> Also, there were specific reasons as to why Shotwell isn't ready, but
> >>> for Solang it was just, yeah this isn't ready either. What
> >>> specifically would you like to see in Solang for it to be considered
> >>> ready?
> >>
> >>
> >>  For me, wheher it is Solang (hypothetically) or Shotwell (as
> announced), a
> >> decent replacement for F-Spot should provide the following:
> >>
> >> - continuity for the regular Ubuntu/F-Spot user, i.e. ability to import
> >> F-Spot tags easily, whether from F-Spot database or from pictures XMP
> >> embedded metadata (ideally, F-Spot tag hierarchy should also be
> preserved,
> >> i.e. for people, place, event. etc.);
> >
> > This would be ideal, but i don't see this happning in time for
> > Maverick. If people see this as a requirement it might be better to
> > hold off until Maverick +1
> >
> >> -beign able to embed tags in file, preferably in XMP or otherwise, in
> IPTC;
> >
> > I believe this is possible, but someone should verify
> >
> >> - same (or almost) set of basic editing functions than F-Spot;
> >
> > F-Spot needed editing capabilities added if i remember correctly,
> > while this has been part of the solang vision from the beginning.
> >
> >> - same level of integration with other graphics/imaging  Ubuntu/Gnome
> apps,
> >> like with Gimp and Eye of GNOME (F-Spot allows the user to switch nicely
> to
> >> Gimp for advanced editing; EOG allows the user to open the viewed
> picture
> >> with F-Spot, etc.).
> >
> > For starters, Solang uses Tracker. From amano on
> >
> https://blueprints.edge.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+spec/desktop-maverick-desktop-application-selection
> >
> > "Solang is a C++ photo editor that does't use a complicated Database
> > for importing and exporting and should be more intuitive for new
> > users. I might try to create a discspace vs. RAM usage vs. feature vs.
> > usability overview by the weekend. I hate the tendency of F-Spot to
> > duplicate pictures on your harddisk (original location, ~/Photo folder
> > and inside the database as well). If there are thousands of pictures
> > to be imported, you might easily run out of disk space. And database
> > corruptions/confusions are not impossible as well.
> >
> > For now I can offer this video review of the Vala based Shotwell:
> >
> http://linuxfilesystem.com/uncategorized/shotwell-photo-manager-for-gnome-linux-mint-8
> .
> > It is database driven and doesn't recognize if you added new files to
> > one of your photo folders (same for F-Spot). Thus new photos have to
> > imported manually which can be tiresome. The C++ based Solang uses
> > Tracker 0.8 to check the photo folders and SPARQL is used to gain
> > access to the meta information about the photos. This approach looks
> > perfectly sane but with its current version 0.4.1 it lacks the option
> > to crop and resize files
> > (http://git.gnome.org/browse/solang/tree/TODO?id=SOLANG_0_4_1) which
> > is rather a "must have" since the removal of the GIMP (given that the
> > simple-image-management blueprint doesn't bring to life a 'simple
> > scan' for image editing). On the other hand it is developed at a rapid
> > pace and those options might be included by the maverick feature
> > freeze. To get a sensible decision in favor of Solang the authors
> > should be contaced first. Shotwell on the other hand is not too
> > different from F-Spot but is developed faster and performs better than
> > the current default."
> >
> >> In other words, let's avoid a regression here...
> >
> > Agreed. I say we should hold off the change until Maverick +1 and plan
> > on working to make Solang a good fit.
> >
> > --
> > .danny
> >
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> > Every (in)decision matters.
> >
>
>
>
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