Ubuntu needs a new development model

[Dmitrijs Ledkovs]

On 6 May 2010 02:09, Ryan Oram <ryan at infinityos.net> wrote:
> It seems like a good site, but I ultimately feel it should be the
> developer themselves who package the applications, as the developers
> will have a much greater incentive to make working and tested packages
> then the maintainers (no offense to the great work of the maintainers
> of Ubuntu and Debian).
>
> Ryan
>

Upstream developers build from trunk and they don't care on how to
package it cause they personally do not need it.

Upstreams don't usually have a clue in packaging and spend quite a bit
of time trying to make it build and ignoring all lintian warnings
because someone asked them to & there is no real package available in
the archive.

These upstream debanisations are usually of poor quality and can do
nasty things to your machine (static libs, auto-updating and pinging
upstream about userbase => google chrome & they do know how to package
btw so this was on purpose and not to make it fit into the system)


If some project doesn't have a package it is either new, unnoticed, or
half-broken code that it cannot justify packaging effort.

> On Wed, May 5, 2010 at 9:05 PM, Daniel Hollocher
> <danielhollocher at gmail.com> wrote:
>> Hey there,  have you thought about just working more closely with
>> getdeb.net?  They are doing the same thing, except it isn't restricted
>> to just multimedia packages.  Regardless, good luck.
>>
>> On Wed, May 5, 2010 at 8:47 PM, Ryan Oram <ryan at infinityos.net> wrote:
>>> End users don't want to have to add PPAs or download .deb files off of websites.
>>>
>>> With infinityOS, users never have to leave their package management
>>> system (or Software Center really) to get programs or update them to
>>> the latest versions. This includes drivers. It works so well that I am
>>> now suggesting that downloading packages from a third-party website is
>>> a security hazard and that users should stick only to the packages
>>> provided by default in the infinityOS and Ubuntu repos. This
>>> completely eliminates the possiblity of spyware, as end-users would
>>> only download packages that have been authenticated, peer-reviewed,
>>> and tested.
>>>
>>> I would be more than happy to bring such functionality upstream to
>>> Ubuntu. I want my ideas to be used by as many people as possible.
>>>
>>> Thanks,
>>> Ryan Oram
>>>
>>> On Wed, May 5, 2010 at 8:34 PM, Daniel Hollocher
>>> <danielhollocher at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>> I'm pretty sure that getdeb.net and the ppa's on launchpad satisfy
>>>> most cravings for rolling releases.
>>>>
>>>
>>
>>
>>
>> --
>> In science and in mind, the impossible and the hasn't-happened-yet are
>> indistinguishable.
>>
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