Evolution & Ubuntu 10.04 LTS

Peteris Krisjanis pecisk at gmail.com
Fri Mar 5 13:47:36 UTC 2010


2010/3/5 Paul Smith <paul at mad-scientist.us>:
> On Fri, 2010-03-05 at 11:23 +0200, Peteris Krisjanis wrote:
>> Well, as far as I have heard from developers, Staying with Evolution
>> 2.28 decision was made because 2.30 will have too big sweeping
>> changes, like D-BUS instead of Bonobo, etc. So it is too much for LTS.
>
> What?!?!  Is that really true?  This is the first I've heard of this!
> Evo 2.30 is an integral part of Gnome 2.30--it's bogus to try to leave
> it behind.
>
> Evolution is at the same time one of the most important applications for
> deployment of Linux in a typical corporate environment (read:
> Exchange-based), and also one of the most problematic historically.
> That means we need to push _forward_, though, not hang back.  There are
> real problems with 2.28: I can't believe anyone would prefer to stay
> with that over 2.30 regardless of LTS.
>
> Not all those problems are fixed in 2.30 but the Exchange MAPI support
> in 2.29 is far ahead of 2.28, and the new capabilities added in
> 2.29/2.30 for other backends solve lots of bugs and clean up all kinds
> of issues.  Plus, if Ubuntu moves to 2.30 they will get the advantage of
> fixes made for 2.30.1, 2.30.2, etc.  2.28.x will be dead (is already
> dead, from Gnome's perspective) and backporting changes across that
> barrier will be extremely difficult for exactly the reasons quoted above
> (sweeping changes).  Does Ubuntu really want to get stuck with broken
> Evo for the entirety of the LTS?
>
>
> Have the decision makers been following the development lists and trying
> the new version?  Surely they must have some factual basis for such a
> decision, in terms of experienced instability, rather than just running
> away from the bullet list of changes.  However, I don't see any problems
> and I've been building Evo 2.29.x from the latest git source every few
> days and using it "in anger" on all of my systems for daily email (and I
> get/send a LOT of email), with both IMAP and MAPI, for the last 3 months
> or so.  It works MUCH better than 2.28.

MAPI changes was also a reason I pitched this question why 2.30 is not
in Lucid. However, I have learned to respect Ubuntu dev decisions -
they see a bigger picture, support costs, etc. I think best solution
is to provide PPA with regular updates for Lucid. I will try. Who
knows, maybe backport will be a answer.

Cheers,
Peter.




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