shanepatrickfagan at ubuntu.com
Sat Jun 12 18:57:32 UTC 2010
On Sat, 2010-06-12 at 14:51 -0400, John Moser wrote:
> I've noticed that I constantly get notifications about instant messages,
> e-mails, and the like. I've also noticed that Thunderbird uses its own
> notification system, which seems to work much better than the one used
> by Pidgin et al.
> The difference in these two systems is pretty simple and easy to compare.
> When I get a notification about, for example, a new Instant Message, I
> get a black box in the top-right of my screen. Hovering the cursor over
> this box makes it fade to transparent; clicks pass through, although the
> elements beneath the box are a little hard to see.
> When Thunderbird notifies me about an e-mail, I get a box in the
> bottom-right with a list of new e-mail messages. Clicking a message
> takes me to the desktop that Thunderbird is on and selects that e-mail,
> so it's previewed in the preview pane.
> The latter behavior seems vastly superior to me. I can't click an IM
> notification and be taken to the desktop with Pidgin on it and have that
> window brought forward and the appropriate tab selected; instead I need
> to recall mentally where all that is, switch desktops, switch to the
> appropriate window, and select the correct tab. In this way, the
> notifications are effectively useless; they don't tie back to the source
> of the notification.
> Most notifications I get are a pointless annoyance because of this,
> whereas they'd otherwise be helpful; I choose to ignore the event in
> question because it's too much work to respond to it. The ones that ARE
> helpful direct me to perform a number of tasks to respond to them,
> rather than giving me something to click to follow back to the
> appropriate window.
> I'm not sure why, but having a "notification queue" that lists all
> notifications you didn't respond to or dismiss seems useless. It would
> be unbelievably cluttered; but I mean the very idea of checking
> notifications for stuff like instant messages that came while you were
> AFK just seems pointless. Maybe the usefulness here is in reflexive
> response to events happening in real-time, rather than simply in
> response at all.
> All I can really say for sure is that Pidgin giving me notifications for
> IMs that I can't click on to follow back irritates the hell out of me.
This has been talked about a lot and for the same reasons you are
talking about the messaging menu was created. It turns green and allows
you to view the events by selecting it from the menu. This isnt the
correct mailing list to discuss this is https://launchpad.net/~ayatana
It has been talked about a lot and I personally like the non interactive
notifications they are a lot more visually appealing.
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