Is Ubuntu commited to free software?
Scott Kitterman
ubuntu at kitterman.com
Thu Jun 10 03:56:41 UTC 2010
"Danny Piccirillo" <danny.piccirillo at ubuntu.com> wrote:
>On Wed, Jun 9, 2010 at 16:37, David Schlesinger <lefty at access-
company.com>wrote:
>
>> On 6/9/10 1:21 PM, "Danny Piccirillo" <danny.piccirillo at ubuntu.com> wrote:
>> >
>> > Upstream linux is not free. That is why LinuxLibre was created.
>> >
>> > http://libresoft.es/Members/herraiz/blog/linux-is-not-free-software
>> >
>> > I have doubts that this was unintentional. Here's a list of nonfree stuff
>> in
>> > Linux:
>> >
>> > http://manulix.wikidot.com/kernel-blobs
>>
>> Danny, if you or anyone else has an issue with the governance of the kernel
>> project, attempting to address it via an end-run through a "litmus test" of
>> Ubuntu's support for "software freedom" seems a rather passive-aggressive
>> way to go about it. I don't see much productive coming out of this
>> discussion.
>>
>> If you're not happy with the way the kernel project is being run, I suggest
>> you'd do better to go talk to Linus and Andrew Morton about it.
>>
>> If Ubuntu's governance is not to your liking, there are plenty of other
>> distros. If none of those is to your liking, you can roll your own.
>>
>>
>The fact is that Linux is not entirely free, and there is a project which is
>the Linux kernel without the nonfree bits. Talking about linux governance is
>out of the scope of this discussion. Ubuntu's philosophy says it is free,
>but even the free software only option has nonfree bits. Why shouldn't i
>expect the mere option to have a fully free system using Ubuntu?
>
Non-free software in Main is a bug. So fix the bug. Your would appear to
confirm the that criteria for "non-free" on that list includes things that are
free, but can be used to load non-free firmware, so the list doesn't impress
me. Since iwl 4965 is on your list and that's what one of my laptops runs, I
decided to have a look at drivers/net/wireless/iwlwifi/iwl-4965.c.
/******************************************************************************
*
* Copyright(c) 2003 - 2009 Intel Corporation. All rights reserved.
*
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* under the terms of version 2 of the GNU General Public License as
* published by the Free Software Foundation.
*
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with
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*
* The full GNU General Public License is included in this distribution in the
* file called LICENSE.
*
* Contact Information:
* Intel Linux Wireless <ilw at linux.intel.com>
* Intel Corporation, 5200 N.E. Elam Young Parkway, Hillsboro, OR 97124-6497
*
*****************************************************************************/
License seems OK.
I read through the code and it appears to load some microcode, but I didn't
see anything in the source that looked like anything other than the preferred
form of modification. I'm not a kernel hacker so I might have miss understood
what I was looking at. Also that list mentions version 2.6.30 and I used the
current Ubuntu 2.6.32 source for Lucid and it may have changed.
So I'm curious what's non-free in that file to get it on the list?
Scott K
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