The 9.10 boot loader progress bar

[Amahdy]

"the system stops working as expected" is not that easy, at least for me
maybe, it's very hard to always notice that the system is working as
expected or not. and sometimes the system doesn't *start* as expected to be
from the beginning so it's not *stopping* here to notice it.

My previous story with fedora 10 is indeed a problem not optimization, it's
a problem to try to load a non-existing device, I was not talking about
disabling the auto-load of bluetooth and load it when needed but I was
talking about a wrong assumption that my laptop had a bluetooth while it
hadn't. (Imagine the contrary when it assumes that I haven't a bluetooth
while I do have one).



> On Mon, Jan 25, 2010 at 11:01 AM, Amahdy <mrjava.javaman at gmail.com <https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-devel-discuss>> wrote:
>
> >* How can you determine "If something goes wrong"?
> *
> The first indication is when I see that the system stops working as
> expected. When that occurs then I will start to investigate.
>
> >* For example couple of years ago, my previous laptop had "fedora 10", and I
> *>* noticed that fedora attempt to load some bluetooth device while my laptop
> *>* doesn't have any bluetooth in it, I'd never notice that without the
> *>* text-loader and although everything works but there is a little thing out
> *>* there to remove to at least make things better than it could be ...
> *
> If everything works then nothing has gone wrong. There's a world of
> difference between repairing a problem and optimizing your system.
>
>

-- Amahdy AbdElAziz
IT & Development Manager
3D Diagnostix Inc. www.3ddx.com
http://www.linkedin.com/in/amahdyabdelaziz



On Mon, Jan 25, 2010 at 21:01, Amahdy <mrjava.javaman at gmail.com> wrote:

> >>If something goes wrong, I can always hit esc to make the GRUB menu come
> up at boot and edit the entry to remove "quiet splash" to see the messages
> for debugging.
>
> How can you determine "If something goes wrong"? in many situations I can't
> know if something getting wrong or not maybe everything is ok and the system
> loads but there is somehting hidden there that I never noticed...
>
> For example couple of years ago, my previous laptop had "fedora 10", and I
> noticed that fedora attempt to load some bluetooth device while my laptop
> doesn't have any bluetooth in it, I'd never notice that without the
> text-loader and although everything works but there is a little thing out
> there to remove to at least make things better than it could be ...
>
> My brother (a newbie) once asked me why there is a [FAILED] in the fedora
> 11 loading, when I fixed it he told me that since months he thought that his
> modem is broken and doesn't work and he would never change his mind until he
> -as a matter of curiosity- asked me about this [FAILED]! the point is: he is
> not technical but he noticed something and just wanted to report it...
>
>
>
>
> -- Amahdy AbdElAziz
> IT & Development Manager
> 3D Diagnostix Inc. www.3ddx.com
> http://www.linkedin.com/in/amahdyabdelaziz
>
>
>
> On Mon, Jan 25, 2010 at 20:02, Vishnoo <drkvi-a at yahoo.com> wrote:
>
>> On Mon, 2010-01-25 at 19:03 +0200, Amahdy wrote:
>> > Here is the middle of thing, have the splash splitted out into two
>> > parts, the upper is the graphical splash and the lower part is the
>> > traditional text-boot with [green(OK)] or [red(fail)]
>> > Even maybe with a scrollbar to scroll through the log if needed...
>> >
>> > I'd love to contribute this idea, but as you may have noticed I'm just
>> > brand new here and don't even know the programming language used :D
>> >
>> This boot animation/graphical splash will most probably be decided by
>> the Canonical design team. [as was done for Karmic]
>>
>> They decided to drop the progress bar since it was not accurate at
>> showing the progress [starts , zooms , stops , zooms again] and not
>> really necessary.
>>
>> --
>> Cheers,
>> Vish
>>
>>
>
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