The 9.10 boot loader progress bar

Amahdy mrjava.javaman at
Mon Jan 25 17:03:51 UTC 2010

Here is the middle of thing, have the splash splitted out into two parts,
the upper is the graphical splash and the lower part is the traditional
text-boot with [green(OK)] or [red(fail)]
Even maybe with a scrollbar to scroll through the log if needed...

I'd love to contribute this idea, but as you may have noticed I'm just brand
new here and don't even know the programming language used :D

I'm currently reading on how to get into the MOTU team, but as far as I get
familiar with the dev-life cycle I think I'll get pretty much time. (I cant
put up to 2 hours per day only).

BTW: I believe 99% of users doesn't really care about the splached boot,
they *have* to see text at some point after pressing the power button
(related to BIOS, detecting IDE, RAM ... etc then GRUP loading ...) so if
this text continue to tell (Loading kernel, X-Server, .. etc) it doesn't
matter a lot as far as they reach at the end a graphical login-screen which
starting from here become for most users a critical matter.

-- Amahdy AbdElAziz
IT & Development Manager
3D Diagnostix Inc.

On Mon, Jan 25, 2010 at 18:52, John Dong <jdong at> wrote:

> On Jan 25, 2010, at 11:48 AM, Joe Zimmerman wrote:
> On Mon, Jan 25, 2010 at 11:41 AM, John Dong <jdong at> wrote:
>>  > It's familiar, and when something stalls it's suddenly not familiar.
>> > I don't have to care WHAT it's doing, just as long as it's doing
>> > something, and telling me what it's doing.  Apple used to do this in
>> > System 7 and System 8 at least by showing icons during boot,
>> > signifying what part of the boot process it was currently in.
>> There is no "part" of bootup progress anymore. Everything happens together
>> in parallel as long as its dependencies are met, and can be arbitrary order
>> during bootup. IO traffic in an unrelated bootup job can cause a seemingly
>> small other job to "stall".
>> It's not at all surprising that non-linear booted OS'es like OS X 10.4+,
>> Ubuntu with Upstart, Windows 2000+, etc do not attempt to show a linear
>> progress bar.
> Why not show a panel of greyed-out icons at the bottom of the screen, one
> for each major component, and light up each icon as the corresponding
> component is initialized? This would reflect the correct abstraction (and if
> the icons had captions, users would have some idea of what was wrong if the
> boot process stalled).
> I agree with you, a lightup panel of Upstart jobs with status indications
> is a really good bootup visual. I'd like to see this feature implemented.
> Any volunteers? :)
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