making a workaround web page for bugs, in LTS release, not fixed
Charlie Kravetz
cjk at teamcharliesangels.com
Thu Jan 7 21:42:39 UTC 2010
On Thu, 7 Jan 2010 15:51:07 -0500
John Moser <john.r.moser at gmail.com> wrote:
> On Thu, Jan 7, 2010 at 6:53 AM, Marco Pallotta <marco.pallotta at gmail.com> wrote:
> > Often Ubuntu users (expecially new users or user that doesn't know
> > much of Ubuntu bug fixing procedure) are disoriented by the fact that
> > bugs, in LTS releases, aren't fixed (or they are marked as "fix
> > released" if they aren't present anymore in next Ubuntu releases) if
>
> I'm still surprised that supposedly supported versions don't have bug fixes.
>
> You get these kinds of reports:
>
> - 7.10 is a great release
> - 8.04 is the worst crap I've ever seen, everything is broken
> - 8.10 is an amazing release, with all the broken crap in 8.04 fixed
>
> And you get a point in time where this becomes true:
>
> - 7.10 has mostly working software.
> - 8.04 has about half its software still broken
> - 8.10 has all those bugs from 8.04 AND 7.10 fixed, and all its software works
> - To get any of 2 or 3 dozen apps in 8.04 to work, you should upgrade to 8.10
> - To get any of 1 or 2 apps in 7.10 to work, upgrade to 8.10
>
> Ubuntu has had at least one release that was hailed as the biggest
> mistake in history, where the entire system seemed duct taped together
> and very basic functionality was largely broken. Python errors got
> spit out by things like Serpentine. Some apps crashed. The MP3
> encoder crashed immediately if you fed it output from oggdec (gtkpod
> thus didn't function). The kernel wasn't even stable on some systems,
> due to a scheduler bug or something non-trivial along those lines. I
> think that was 8.10?
>
> When I finally upgraded, everything was still broken in the old
> version, and everything was working in the new version. Last I
> looked, everything was still broken in that version.
>
> My question is: do such versions of Ubuntu remain broken and
> dysfunctional until they're no longer supported? Is this proper? Or
> should fixes get backported to all supported releases AND LTS such
> that the oldest version always has the fewest problems, but also fewer
> features?
>
Ubuntu bugsquad already has a policy that workarounds should be
identified and moved into the bug description. If that was happening,
it should be easy to grab the section labeled "WORKAROUND:", right?
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