Focus of the introduction for programmers

[Sense Hofstede]

2010/2/3 Bruno Girin <brunogirin at gmail.com>:
> On Tue, 2010-02-02 at 19:56 -0300, Brian Vidal Castillo wrote:
>> It could sound like a fanboy, but using a powerful IDE is the best
>> choice for programers new to Ubuntu.
>> And I think Eclipse is the right for this tasks.
>
> I'd agree to that. Eclipse is very powerful. I've used it extensively
> and it's hard to beat. Add to this that it is also cross-platform and is
> one of the most common IDE on Windows and Mac and a large number of
> developers used to work in those environments feel at home with Eclipse.
>
>>
>> There are plugins for bzr (whic I use).
>> But a little more love from the community would help a lot.
>
> Some of the things that would be very useful are standard packages for
> the pydev plugin, a bzr plugin and a .deb packaging plugin.
>
> [snip]
>
>> > I agree with what you're saying, although imho if you're serious about
>> > becoming an Ubuntu contributor on any type of technical level you'll
>> > probably want to learn packaging. You might not want to do sponsorship
>> > work or merges or anything MOTU-specific, but knowing how to provide
>> > patches and being able to upload your own code and bug fixes seems
>> > very useful. I think they should be pointed to packaging in addition
>> > to what you propose above, and also other tools that are used across
>> > Ubuntu such as bzr.
>> >
>> > -Jonathan
>
> I agree and I think that's an area that needs work. As an experienced
> developer on other platforms, I find packaging to be the biggest
> challenge to being able to contribute code because it is Ubuntu (or
> rather Debian) specific and I can't relate it easily to what I know.
> Learning Python when you know other OO languages is not too difficult,
> nor is learning bzr when you know svn; but the wheels come off when it
> comes to packaging because producing a .deb feels a lot more complicated
> than producing a .jar for a Java application to the uninitiated like me.
>
> Bruno
>
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Maybe Ubuntu should endorse a certain development environment and
certain approaches to development (e.g.: GConf or Desktopcouch?) in
order to make starting with development and starting with developing
for Ubuntu easier.

Regards,
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Sense Hofstede
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