Ubuntu Domain Server
christopher.chan at bradbury.edu.hk
Mon Nov 23 02:23:35 GMT 2009
Ryan Dwyer wrote:
> On Mon, Nov 23, 2009 at 10:32 AM, Christopher Chan
> <christopher.chan at bradbury.edu.hk
> <mailto:christopher.chan at bradbury.edu.hk>> wrote:
> > Deciding that those defaults actually would be is another kettle of
> > fish entirely and I surmise that a democratic process of some sort,
> > perhaps brainstorm, would be a good way to settle this inherently
> > political section.
> That can of worms has to be opened and emptied. The one single problem
> about adopting 'Linux' has pretty much been a lack of a uniform
> whether it comes to administration or programming. We can thank the
> Linux kernel developers for contributing to this with their 'moving
> target interfaces' mantra too. I guess we can sigh with relief that at
> least with respects to office software, there is more or less one
> standard - Openoffice and ODF.
> > Finally, I think it's fair to give MS its due here. Whether by fair
> > means or foul, MS has a commanding presence in the market and we
> > simply have to accept that as the way things currently are. Any
> > meaningful effort to get market share away from MS needs to be
> able to
> > successfully accomodate the windows users and help them migrate, at
> > least long enough for them to get the feel for "The Linux Way (tm)".
> > People used to Windows that are trying out Ubuntu anything for the
> > first time are from their point of view venturing into uncharted
> Those same people ventured into uncharted waters before getting
> used to
> Windows. You bet that they were quite happy to do the same when they
> bought their Mac. Of course, if we take the server side angle, it
> be a whole different story. Users are probably more willing to learn
> something new than a certain breed of Microsoft administrators that is
> forever implied at here.
> That's not true for me. I manage Windows networks at work and use
> Ubuntu exclusively at home. I would love to migrate them all to Ubuntu
> and rid Windows from the workplace but Ubuntu has no suitable product
> to do so which just works out of the box.
Windows networks do not work out of the box. You need to configure each
computer from ADS controller to the last Windows XP/2000 Professional
workstation. I hope you are not expecting something different with Linux
(but I love to see that though - it would give whichever distro that
does this an upper hand).
But if you are looking for controlling the desktops/profiles, yada,
yada, please thank the Kubuntu Team for taking KDE 3 off their packaging
list as there is nothing else available but KDE 3.5 and kiosktool that
gives you the ability to control desktops based on groups and nobody has
as yet stepped up to the plate to port kiosktool over to KDE 4.
> Though it would be interesting to know just how many Windows
> administrators have heard of Linux, used Linux, and done sysadmin
> tasks on Linux.
and what level of administrator they are too.
I pretty much expect paper MCSEs not to be part of the list but now that
Microsoft is phasing out the MCSE certificate, I guess we need a new
name for those who got their certificate by cramming.
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