Replacing network-offline (old version 2xmonitor) with NM wlan 0% signal strength icon

Scott Kitterman ubuntu at
Mon Mar 16 20:18:27 UTC 2009

On Mon, 16 Mar 2009 19:28:46 +0000 Mat Tomaszewski 
<mat.tomaszewski at> wrote:
>Scott Kitterman wrote:
>> On Mon, 16 Mar 2009 14:45:59 +0000 Mat Tomaszewski 
>> <mat.tomaszewski at> wrote:
>>> I hope by saying *we* you mean *you*, or maybe other community members 
>>> have already chosen their representative to speak for them? :)
>> Even with the smiley I think this kind of response discourages 
>> dialogue 
>It's difficult for me (and I think for anyone) to consider statements 
>like that a constructive dialogue.
A lot of the discussion around this and related topics has been very harsh 
(and I've had at the very least my fair share of contributing to that).  We 
can either contribute (jointly) to trying to make the tone of the 
discussion better so that there is a better chance of us actually hearing 
each other or we can continue flogging each other in a manner that is both 
non-productive  and unpleasant.

Please just trust that part of me really wants to be sending a very 
strongly negative message right now, but I'm trying to step past that and 
promote a more positive interaction.  If you want to keep up with the 
negativity, I suppose we can do that too.  Those mails are a lot more fun 
for me to write.  I don't think they benefit the project.

And yes, I do think that gently pointing out where it appears to me that 
someone is discouraging dialogue is a contructive response to such 

Scott K

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