about empathy as the default IM application
danny.piccirillo at ubuntu.com
Mon Jun 15 23:58:03 BST 2009
Just blogged this here:
I referenced Rick and Nicolò-- hope that's okay with you two!
On Mon, Jun 15, 2009 at 18:22, Rick Spencer <rick.spencer at canonical.com>wrote:
> I think switching to empathy is a fairly substantial change, and people
> in good faith will and should question that change.
> However, given Danny's points, the fact that pidgin will stay available
> and supported, the responsiveness of the empathy developers, indeed all
> the factors discussed at UDS, I see no reason to back off from the
> decision made there.
> Cheers, Rick
> On Mon, 2009-06-15 at 18:00 -0400, Danny Piccirillo wrote:
> > Ah, yes-- this discussion will keep coming up until it finally happens
> > =]
> > http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=7462614
> > IMHO Empathy is great for most users, especially new ones, and it can
> > replace poth pidgin AND ekiga. It lacks the basic features like the
> > ones you mentioned, but i don't think they are showstoppers and
> > including it in Karmic or the next release i'm sure would guarantee
> > that all of those would be resolved within the release cycle. It is
> > simple and integrates well, and we want to make Ubuntu friendly for
> > NEW users. Old users who prefer the clutter and feature madness of
> > pidgin will simply install it from Add/Remove (or not even have to if
> > they run an upgrade). If Ubuntu switched to Empathy, it's development
> > is going to get a big boost so the feature gap will close and
> > eventaully reverse. Are people really defending Pidgin for the future
> > of Ubuntu or as their pet IM client?
> > On Mon, Jun 1, 2009 at 15:35, Nicolò Chieffo
> > <nicolo.chieffo at gmail.com> wrote:
> > Hello everyone, I'm really interested in the new version of
> > empathy
> > which will have video and audio support.
> > This will be a really great feature and a step towards a
> > complete IM experience.
> > But on the other hand I'm quite worried of the empathy and
> > telepathy
> > status about basic features, which seem to be put aside in
> > favor of
> > new and strange ones.
> > Maybe developers should help to implement them before empathy
> > will
> > replace pidgin, or lots of users will loose useful stuff like:
> > * Rich text messages (underline, bold, font, ...)
> > * Custom emoticons
> > * Protocol emoticons
> > * Msn chat with invisible users
> > * Msn send and receive offline messages
> > * Msn see windows live messenger buddy icons (only new
> > versions of 2009)
> > * Msn file transfers
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