about empathy as the default IM application

Danny Piccirillo danny.piccirillo at ubuntu.com
Wed Jun 17 06:22:48 UTC 2009

I'm noticing that in the latest daily build of Ubuntu, Pidgin in still
included, who makes the actual change and when will that happen?

On Wed, Jun 17, 2009 at 02:06, Andrew Sayers <
andrew-ubuntu-devel at pileofstuff.org> wrote:

> I guess my previous message wasn't clear - I'm not making an argument
> here from personal preference, I'm trying to file a bug in Ubuntu
> itself.  Specifically, that dropping Pidgin will cause a regression in
> the user experience for migraters.
> I'm also not arguing that migraters are incapable of learning new
> things, just that they shouldn't be asked to learn a new IM program at
> the same time as they're learning where their start menu went.  I would
> have no problem, for example, with asking updaters whether they wanted
> to switch to Empathy.
> This decision was made at UDS with no input from, or output to, the
> wider community.  Brainstorm has never heard of Empathy, and I've never
> seen it get more than luke warm support on this list.  While I agree
> with UDS in general, saying "at UDS it was already decided that Empathy
> would ship with Karmic.... the decision has already been made for us"
> goes completely against the grain of open source development.
>        - Andrew
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Most new users are switching straight from a client like AIM, MSN, or Yahoo,
not Pidgin, and Empathy was chosen to replace Pidgin because it is more
friendly for those new users.

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