shameful censoring of mono opposition

Derek Broughton derek at
Mon Jun 8 23:31:31 UTC 2009

Remco wrote:

> On Mon, Jun 8, 2009 at 7:53 PM, Derek Broughton<derek at>
> wrote:
>> Remco wrote:
>>> We're still being a Microsoft technology user, which is what Mark
>>> Shuttleworth didn't want, and is the reason why Wine is not included
>>> in Ubuntu.
>> It's not?  When did that happen?
>> $ apt-cache policy wine
>> wine:
>> Installed: (none)
>> Candidate: 1.0.1-0ubuntu6
>> Version table:
>> 1.0.1-0ubuntu6 0
>> 500 jaunty/universe Packages
> Oh, so now Ubuntu also comes with Windows Media, H.264 and DivX? You
> can find those in the repositories as well. 

Where?  See, I demonstrated how exactly wine _is_ in Ubuntu, and you counter 
by throwing out some vague concepts without a single package name.  Wine is 
in _universe_.  That's an Ubuntu repository.  Windows media codecs have a 
package that allows _you_ to download from an another source.  It's a pretty 
huge distinction.

> Of course not. The repositories are not part of the default install,
> and should not be treated as such.

The "repositories" are part of a default install - they get added to your 
default sources.  Things like wine aren't omitted from the CD for _policy_ 
reasons, they're omitted for _space_.

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