libc borked

Scott Kitterman ubuntu at
Thu Mar 13 16:02:36 UTC 2008

On Thursday 13 March 2008 08:31:59 Soren Hansen wrote:
> On Thu, Mar 13, 2008 at 07:14:23AM -0400, Scott Kitterman wrote:
> > >> Cory's comment was a bit intemperate, but I feel your response was
> > >> not at all helpful and that it really minimized Cory's extensive
> > >> contributions to Ubuntu developmen.
> > >
> > >But it's cool for Cory to flame doko because Cory's a developer?
> > >Interesting.
> >
> > No, not cool.  I just didn't like the response.  We all write things
> > we shouldn't every now and then.  It doesn't mean we need to have
> > random strangers sending us form letters.
> Ok, so Cory sends an e-mail to a public mailing list in an "intemperate"
> tone. Todd finds this inapproriate, and shares this feeling with Cory
> and the rest of us, in a tone this is the diametrically opposite of
> intemperate.  And you decide to tell *Todd* off due to his tone, because
> Cory has done more work on Ubuntu than him?
> Well, as dholbach so nicely put it, if people are regular contributors
> to Ubuntu, they should be setting a good example, so if I were to tell
> one of Todd or Cory off, it'd most certainly be Cory. I would have done
> so, but Todd did it just fine, IMO, and applying your logic, since I've
> been a core-dev longer than you, my opinion is better than yours, right?

I've thought about this some more and I think I understand my negative 
reaction to Todd's mail better.  The problem wasn't that he responded or that 
he's not a developer.  What bothered me was that it sounded like a standard 
stock response.

This is supposed to be Linux for human beings and I didn't feel like Todd's 
mail took into account the unique human things that would have caused Cory to 
write such a mail.  Cory certainly should (IMO) have expressed his 
understandable frustration with the situation in a more positive/better way 
and it was appropriate of Todd to point that out (developer or not).  I just 
wish he'd been less impersonal about it.

Thanks for pushing back on my response.  I learned something from it.

Scott K

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