Did we really release 8.04?

[Timo Jyrinki]

2008/7/7 Bryce Harrington <bryce at canonical.com>:
>> I think the single most needed feature in Launchpad regarding this
>> would be the possibility for voting, as done in bugzilla.
>
> I don't know if I necessarily agree with this.  Voting may feel good
> from a user perspective and certainly couldn't hurt, but we already have
> good ways of measuring user interest in particular bugs.

Right, it may be it's more about giving users a good feeling, but we
should probably be doing that, too... It does work for some projects
like Wine and OpenOffice.org as a measurement of a popularity of a
problem.

> For instance,
> Brian Murray captures bugs with many subscribers (which I link to from
> http://people.ubuntu.com/~bryce/Xorg/status_current.html).

I linked to Brian's directory from https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Bugs/Stats
now, since those kind of services are valuable if they are just easily
found.

> With voting, I would worry that we'd see all the usual problems with
> gaming voting systems.  Someone might file a stub bug "Ubuntu crashes
> randomly" with no details, post something like "plz vote this bug if u
> want ubuntu to never crash again", and accumulate +10,000 votes to it.

Yes, it might not work, too :) My hope would be that those bugs would
be in a minority and going through eg. 50 most voted bugs would reveal
some important bugs that wouldn't have been revealed otherwise, since
the people hovering around that specific bug didn't know how to use
Launchpad to propose it for a milestone or contact QA.

Granted, getting "sorted by comments" could help in the same thing as
voting, but voting could decrease noise in the bug reports.

>> I'm not sure if it is even possible to sort bugs by the amount of
>> duplicates?
> Yes it is; in fact I have a script I'm going to make available soonish
> which lets you do this with milestoned bugs.

Great. That's another thing that should actually be part of Launchpad,
but a script would help too. At least a portion of developers / QA
team needs to know an easy way to sort by duplicates, comments and
subscribers, so that the bugs are noticed in time.

> We need more people doing this.

Yes, we need more triagers, and like you said earlier we would need
more developers. And I think all the guides about how to join QA /
BugSquad / MOTU etc. are on the right track about this, but still we
could/should attract even more people.

-Timo