VOIP: ekiga, wengophone, twinkle (was What is 'administrivia')

[Fergal Daly]

On 02/01/2008, Jonathan Musther <jmusther at gmail.com> wrote:
> I agree, we don't have any usage stats.  Although I was defending VOIP, I
> don't know of anybody who has successfully used Ekiga.  Wengo is a
> possibility (I've been trying it) and it supports IM protocols too so you
> can use it for google talk, msn, aim, jabber etc, which is nice.

Much as I don't really want to defend ekiga, I got it working and I
know others who did too (on Linux and Windows). I think it has plenty
of problems in terms of usability and useful diagnostics when things
aren't working (a problem with all of the SIP clients I tried) but it
does work.

If your setup is relatively straight-forward or you are able to open
ports on your firewall then you don't have be SIP expert to get it
working - I know nothing about SIP I got it to work by following the
docs,

F

>
> On Jan 2, 2008 12:05 PM, Evan <eapache at gmail.com> wrote:
> >
> > On Dec 31, 2007 11:27 PM, Jonathan Musther <jmusther at gmail.com> wrote:
> >
> > > I think it's used widely.  And if I think it is, and you think it isn't,
> then sensible conclusion to draw is that in some circles it's used widely,
> in others it's not. so overall it's used quite a bit.  I have to say I don't
> know anybody (business owners aside) that uses a finance manager on their PC
> - again, that doesn't mean it's not used, but certainly in my experience
> it's used less often than a VOIP service.
> > >
> >
> > I don't know anybody that uses VOIP, but I know several people who use
> Quicken regularly to manage their personal finances. Again, the conclusion
> is that it depends on the type of user. Barring any definite usage
> statistics (which I don't think we have), we have a few choices. If the new
> compression format makes it into Hardy, we should have lots of room to add
> Gnucash and keep Ekiga. If other stuff (like the multiple themes that are
> apparently going to be in Hardy) needs more space, perhaps Ekiga should be
> first on the chopping block.
> >
> > If it does come down to a choice between the two, I think that Gnucash
> should make it in simply because even if Ekiga is installed by default, too
> many users will ignore it and install Skype. While this isn't good because
> Skype is closed, it is what most people are using. Ideally we'd include a
> multi-format client that can connect to Skype and to open channels (like
> Pidgin can connect to MSN, Yahoo, etc.) but as far as I know there isn't
> one.
> >
> > Evan
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > On Dec 31, 2007 11:27 PM, Jonathan Musther <jmusther at gmail.com > wrote:
> >
> > > I think it's used widely.  And if I think it is, and you think it isn't,
> then sensible conclusion to draw is that in some circles it's used widely,
> in others it's not. so overall it's used quite a bit.  I have to say I don't
> know anybody (business owners aside) that uses a finance manager on their PC
> - again, that doesn't mean it's not used, but certainly in my experience
> it's used less often than a VOIP service.
> > >
> > > And yes, the VOIP tool which is vastly more popular than any other is
> skype - but I don't think we should include it.  Ideally what we need to
> include is a skype-ish tool, something like wengo (I've not tried wengo).
> I've never had any success using ekiga, never.
> > >
> > > Of course the problem with migrating people from skype to other things
> is that they know people on skype.  It's like msn messenger, how many people
> are linux/FOSS users and use something like pidgin to access an msn account
> for instant messaging?
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > On Jan 1, 2008 5:09 PM, Evan <eapache at gmail.com> wrote:
> > >
> > > >
> > > > I'm just saying that it isn't used widely enough to be included in the
> cd. Certainly leave it in main, but I don't think voip in general is popular
> enough (yet) to include a client. A finance manager like Gnucash is much
> more likely to be used by the default user.
> > > >
> > > > Evan
> > > >
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