VOIP: ekiga, wengophone, twinkle (was What is 'administrivia')

[Evan]

On Dec 31, 2007 11:27 PM, Jonathan Musther <jmusther at gmail.com> wrote:

> I think it's used widely.  And if I think it is, and you think it isn't,
> then sensible conclusion to draw is that in some circles it's used widely,
> in others it's not. so overall it's used quite a bit.  I have to say I don't
> know anybody (business owners aside) that uses a finance manager on their PC
> - again, that doesn't mean it's not used, but certainly in my experience
> it's used less often than a VOIP service.
>

I don't know anybody that uses VOIP, but I know several people who use
Quicken regularly to manage their personal finances. Again, the conclusion
is that it depends on the type of user. Barring any definite usage
statistics (which I don't think we have), we have a few choices. If the new
compression format makes it into Hardy, we should have lots of room to add
Gnucash and keep Ekiga. If other stuff (like the multiple themes that are
apparently going to be in Hardy) needs more space, perhaps Ekiga should be
first on the chopping block.

If it does come down to a choice between the two, I think that Gnucash
should make it in simply because even if Ekiga is installed by default, too
many users will ignore it and install Skype. While this isn't good because
Skype is closed, it is what most people are using. Ideally we'd include a
multi-format client that can connect to Skype and to open channels (like
Pidgin can connect to MSN, Yahoo, etc.) but as far as I know there isn't
one.

Evan

On Dec 31, 2007 11:27 PM, Jonathan Musther <jmusther at gmail.com> wrote:

> I think it's used widely.  And if I think it is, and you think it isn't,
> then sensible conclusion to draw is that in some circles it's used widely,
> in others it's not. so overall it's used quite a bit.  I have to say I don't
> know anybody (business owners aside) that uses a finance manager on their PC
> - again, that doesn't mean it's not used, but certainly in my experience
> it's used less often than a VOIP service.
>
> And yes, the VOIP tool which is vastly more popular than any other is
> skype - but I don't think we should include it.  Ideally what we need to
> include is a skype-ish tool, something like wengo (I've not tried wengo).
> I've never had any success using ekiga, never.
>
> Of course the problem with migrating people from skype to other things is
> that they know people on skype.  It's like msn messenger, how many people
> are linux/FOSS users and use something like pidgin to access an msn account
> for instant messaging?
>
>
>
> On Jan 1, 2008 5:09 PM, Evan <eapache at gmail.com> wrote:
>
> > I'm just saying that it isn't used widely enough to be included in the
> > cd. Certainly leave it in main, but I don't think voip in general is popular
> > enough (yet) to include a client. A finance manager like Gnucash is much
> > more likely to be used by the default user.
> >
> > Evan
> >
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