GetDeb Project

João Pinto lamego.pinto at gmail.com
Tue Oct 16 15:51:52 UTC 2007


Hello,
did you missed the part that I told we do not provide a repository and the
reasons for such limitation ?
What do official repositories have to do with a non repository based
software distribution ?
What have official repositories to do with "outside of Ubuntu" ? Ubuntu is
composed by a large community which works on a broad range of areas,  it is
not just about official repositories.

We provide packages which are new/not in the official repositories, because,
we want them to become available for the users. If your question, is, why
don't we follow the MOTU processes to make them available, then we go into
another subject which is not about getdeb. Neither would I be able to
represent all the individuals which create/submit/request packages to
getdeb, some of them do also parallel work, they are submitting both to
getdeb and to the official processes, on getdeb it is likely that they will
become available in 1 week, the same package, following official processes,
may take several weeks, or months, please note that our QA requirements are
not as strict(good) as the Debian/Ubuntu packages.

Again my question, which people benefits from Ubuntu official repositories
and does not from GetDeb ?
We are not doing duplicate work, we use a lot of Debian/Universe/Backports
build rules, Debian/Universe/Backports can use our building rules, what is
the effort duplication you are talking about ?

We would not keep "wasting" efforts for 1 year unless we got very positive
feedback from our work, which we do. I did not present this project at the
beginning because I knew I would run the risk of getting comments like this
that would probably break my motivation, comments for which I was not
prepared,  I was lacking he skills, know-how, team collaboration and strong
believe on the value of the project, something which I do have now.

I do respect your personal opinion about the "waste of time" which is the
getdeb work, however I do not appreciate that you use the word "official" to
shield your personal opinion.

We may become an official project, or we may not, it will depend on our
ability to improve our processes and trustworthy, still, this is not a
present objective, we still have a long road to run on the technical side.

Our work is about collaboration, not about competition.

Thank you


> Ubuntu has official repositories.  Getdeb isn't one of them.  I don't know
>
> what can be clearer than that.  If you want to be "Official" talk to the
> Ubuntu Tech Board.  That's what Backports did.
>
> You provide packages that are newer/not in the official
> repositories.  With
> the exception of packages that are legally questionable for the official
> repositories, why?
>
> If you would focus your work towards the actual Ubuntu repositories, more
> people would benifit.  It's not that I think what you are doing it wrong,
> but
> that much of it is duplicative and it'd be better for all if your efforts
> were more in the official repositories.   That said, you are free to
> volunteer however you see best.  To me it seems like your wasting a lot of
>
> effort, but clearly you have an agenda that I don't understand.
>
> Scott K
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João Pinto
IRC: Lamego @ irc.freenode.net
Jabber ID: lamego.pinto at gmail.com
GetDeb Project Manager - http://www.getdeb.net
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