<div dir="ltr"><div><div>I'm supportive of not including an email client by default given the current selection. If there was a light-weight client available with good features (e.g. Geary) I think there would be a decision but the listed candidates are too big / old. </div>I think if there's no client though there should be good support for handling mailto: links - i.e. either we have common web mail provider support (e.g. Gmail) installed by default or at least a good dialog to help you redirect to your provider when you click on these links. </div>--Robert </div> <div class="gmail_quote"><div dir="ltr">On Wed, Apr 19, 2017 at 8:08 AM Jeremy Bicha <<a href="mailto:jbicha@ubuntu.com">jbicha@ubuntu.com</a>> wrote: </div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">In 2011, we switched Ubuntu's default email client from Evolution to Thunderbird. Six years later, I think it's time to take another look. Should we even install an email client by default? The question is not whether it's useful, but whether it's useful enough to enough people to justify it being installed for everyone. - Ubuntu GNOME 16.10 included Evolution but 17.04 has no email client installed at all. The decision disappointed a few people but there hasn't been much negative feedback at all yet. - GNOME Release Team member Michael Catanzaro recommends not installing an email client by default since there isn't an app that is both well-maintained and very well-integrated into the GNOME 3 style. [1] - It's believed that most people just use web mail now, often along with apps on their smart phone. - A problem is that those who do prefer to use an installed email client do not all prefer the same one! If we do include an email client, which one? Thunderbird (TB) ------------------------- 1. TB is still built with GTK2. 2. TB is a community project now and Mozilla no longer pays developers to work on it. 3. It looks like TB will have a lot of work to do next year once Firefox drops traditional extension support with FF57. This work might be shared with other apps that use Mozilla code. 4. TB does not integrate with GNOME Online Accounts. 5. TB has better Unity integration than Evolution. 6. There was a proposal a year and a half ago to turn TB into a web app but I don't think that went anywhere. [2] Evolution -------------- 1. The UI doesn't fully embrace GNOME3 app design style, but it is closer than TB. 2. Small development team. 3. Evolution is not available on other operating systems. 4. Evolution is relatively easy to co-maintain with Debian. [1] <a href="https://blogs.gnome.org/mcatanzaro/2016/09/21/gnome-3-22-core-apps/" rel="noreferrer" target="_blank">https://blogs.gnome.org/mcatanzaro/2016/09/21/gnome-3-22-core-apps/</a> [2] <a href="https://groups.google.com/forum/#!topic/tb-planning/h97q9cDUZOU" rel="noreferrer" target="_blank">https://groups.google.com/forum/#!topic/tb-planning/h97q9cDUZOU</a> Thanks, Jeremy Bicha -- ubuntu-desktop mailing list <a href="mailto:ubuntu-desktop@lists.ubuntu.com" target="_blank">ubuntu-desktop@lists.ubuntu.com</a> <a href="https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-desktop" rel="noreferrer" target="_blank">https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-desktop</a> </blockquote></div>