<div dir="ltr"><div class="gmail_extra"><div class="gmail_quote">On 17 April 2014 04:00, Robert Park <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:robert.park@canonical.com" target="_blank">robert.park@canonical.com</a>></span> wrote:<br>
<blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><div class="">On Wed, Apr 16, 2014 at 6:11 PM, Jason Warner<br>
<<a href="mailto:jason.warner@canonical.com">jason.warner@canonical.com</a>> wrote:<br>
> When I read Jo-Erlend's email, this stuck out at me:<br>
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> "but don't merge them too soon"<br>
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> We are going to be certain to merge when ready and not before.<br>
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</div>Yes, sorry I wasn't clear, I'm not trying to suggest that we merge<br>
them immediately or prematurely. Just stating the end-goal, that they<br>
must be the same. Making a distinction between PC and Phone desktops<br>
is precisely what we don't want to be doing for longer than necessary.<br>
</blockquote></div><br></div><div class="gmail_extra">Nobody on the planet wants that more than I do. I ditched my desktop for six months for an IGEPv2 (OMAP3) running as a thin-client against a KVM guest. That was in 2009. I knew right there and then that Ubuntu Desktop was going mobile. That was completely evident from my experience. I knew something like Calxeda was coming too, and the whole MaaS-thing. It was simply a way too powerful experience that nobody would pick up on it. <br>
<br></div><div class="gmail_extra">I'm not a mobile geek. I'm pretty much the most novice smart phone user on the planet. I can't really contribute anything to that. But I was raised as an IBM-compatible-kid. I was born in 1980, built my first PC in '86 and I remember the time when Windows was not the preferred GUI for MS-DOS, but GEM was. This is to say that desktop is a real passion for me. It's not just just an app; it's a way of life. I might replace the mouse, because I didn't have one when I started using computers, but I will never replace my keyboard with a touch screen and I won't do my office work in a couch or a bean bag. <br>
<br>There is nothing I want more than to move my large box into the basement and replace my desktop with a phone. I want to contribute to that, from the desktop side of things. I just don't want people to confuse app convergence with device convergence. My desktop will never be a phone, even if my phone can be my desktop. I want the New Desktop to be developed concurrently with the existing one. Sure, we'll get a replacement for gcalctool that's suitable for both, and that's fine – replace those things ad libitum. At some point in time, we'll get a marvellous new file manager that can handle both scenarios as well, but I don't want to replace Nautilus before the replacement is _better_ than Nautilus. That's the Redmond Mistake. If you try to replace Evolution with a fanatastic PhonePIM that is "promising on the desktop", then the desktop loses and the phone loses as a consequence of that. <br>
<br></div><div class="gmail_extra">I want to remind everyone that Microsoft _had to_ switch quickly. It was apparent that ARM was here to stay and they had no defence. With all the third-party apps, created around the proprietary ideals, they could never have competed on ARM as a traditional WIMP system. They had to create something very different just to explain why people could no longer run their apps. Ubuntu is in a very different situation. We have mostly all our apps on ARM and x86. Ubuntu can be fantastic on the phone with an impressive desktop addon without competing with the PC desktop. We can have both. <br>
<br></div><div class="gmail_extra">I was very happy to read the main from Jason Warner, by the way. I'm just not entirely sure what he means. I hope it means giving us desktop users a period of calm, like the Gnome desktop used to be for ten years before the whole Unity thing started. I love Unity, but the transition has been complely exhausting. If they can move it off main stage for a couple of years, I'll be happy as a kite. <br>
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