I agree on those two and have two more to add. (If these are already gone/changed in karmic, sorry) Neither for full removal but they just shouldn't be ran per user at startup: Jockey - purpose is notification of hardware changes. Update manager - purpose is notification of updates available Thoughts? <div class="gmail_quote"> On Sun, Aug 2, 2009 at 4:56 AM, Chris Coulson <<a href="mailto:chrisccoulson@ubuntu.com" target="_blank">chrisccoulson@ubuntu.com</a>> wrote: <blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="border-left: 1px solid rgb(204, 204, 204); margin: 0pt 0pt 0pt 0.8ex; padding-left: 1ex;"> Hi, As you're all aware, the mixer-applet was recently disabled in Karmic. This got me thinking about whether we need all the other applets we currently have on the default install, and I wondered whether there were any others that could be disabled too. I just wanted to know what everyone else thought. The ones that are currently installed which I think could probably be disabled are: *** battstatus *** This currently is able to use either a HAL backend or the legacy /proc/acpi interface for obtaining battery information. This has previously been (and might still be) a source of bugs when the legacy interface presents inconsistent information compared to what gnome-power-manager says (eg, battstatus saying laptop is on AC where g-p-m says it is on battery). AFAIK, the legacy /proc/acpi interface has been deprecated for some time, and we don't really want the HAL backend either. I'm not sure what benefit this adds in addition to the gnome-power-manager status icon, but I think it is a good candidate for removal. It is also the only applet in gnome-applets which depends on HAL. Fedora don't ship this applet currently. *** modemlights *** This has a dependency on network-admin from gnome-system-tools which we don't even install by default anymore, so is crippled on the default install anyway. To be functional, users will need to manually download gnome-network-admin, so I'm not sure if we'd lose anything by removing this applet. Do people have any objections to removing these applets, or know if any users are still using them? Perhaps you can think of some other applets that could also be disabled? Is there any use-case I have missed which would prohibit the removal of these 2 applets? Regards Chris -- ubuntu-desktop mailing list <a href="mailto:ubuntu-desktop@lists.ubuntu.com" target="_blank">ubuntu-desktop@lists.ubuntu.com</a> <a href="https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-desktop" target="_blank">https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-desktop</a> </blockquote></div>