On Sun, Feb 24, 2008 at 3:57 PM, Karel Prikkebeen <<a href="mailto:kabeen@home.nl">kabeen@home.nl</a>> wrote:<br><div class="gmail_quote"><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="border-left: 1px solid rgb(204, 204, 204); margin: 0pt 0pt 0pt 0.8ex; padding-left: 1ex;">
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Op zaterdag 23-02-2008 om 10:40 uur [tijdzone +0100], schreef Jo-Erlend Schinstad:
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<pre><font color="#000000">We now have four ways of adding a repository; add it as a line in</font>
<font color="#000000">/etc/apt/sources.list, as a file in /etc/apt/sources.list.d, using</font>
<font color="#000000">Software Sources in the System > Administration menu, or in Synaptic.</font>
<font color="#000000">This only serves to confuse users. It is redundant and should be</font>
<font color="#000000">avoided.</font>
<font color="#000000">There are also negative consequences of having it in the menus. By</font>
<font color="#000000">eliminating the need to open Synaptic, we're also eliminating the need</font>
<font color="#000000">to get to know Synaptic. That's a shame, because it's a really good</font>
<font color="#000000">package management application. Synaptic has the features of Tasksel</font>
<font color="#000000">built into it, for instance, and many people don't know that because</font>
<font color="#000000">they don't know Synaptic. Because people don't know it very well, they</font>
<font color="#000000">recommend that people open a terminal and run sudo tasksel for tasks</font>
<font color="#000000">and sudo apt-get install for packages. This in turn leads to guides</font>
<font color="#000000">that recommend copy-paste of sudo commands. This may lead to security</font>
<font color="#000000">issues for less advanced users who just want to install some software.</font>
<font color="#000000">They're being conditioned to use sudo carelessly, and to copy commands</font>
<font color="#000000">they don't understand and run them as root. This is a disease which we</font>
<font color="#000000">should fight with all possible means.</font>
<font color="#000000">Removing the Software Sources menu item, thereby forcing users to open</font>
<font color="#000000">Synaptic instead, is only a beginning. All wiki pages and help</font>
<font color="#000000">documents should also refer to Synaptic as the primary way of</font>
<font color="#000000">installing tasks and packages, and Add/Remove for desktop</font>
<font color="#000000">applications. Synaptic also lacks the possibility to enter a number of</font>
<font color="#000000">packages at the same time and install them, like you can do with</font>
<font color="#000000">apt-get and aptitude. I've filed a bug on that on launchpad:</font>
<font color="#000000"><a href="https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/synaptic/+bug/194666" target="_blank">https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/synaptic/+bug/194666</a></font>
<font color="#000000">Best regards,</font>
<font color="#000000">Jo-Erlend Schinstad</font>
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I agree with you. I should also like a standard button for Synaptic next to the help button, so that when you hoover over it with the mouse it gives a hint about it's purpose.
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<br></blockquote></div><br>I appreciate having the option there, since I don't actually use Synaptic, but like having a handy way to edit the sources list. Going through Synaptic just takes more clicks...<br clear="all">
<br>-- <br>Tony Yarusso<br><a href="http://tonyyarusso.com/">http://tonyyarusso.com/</a>