Software installation on modern Ubuntu

Nrbrtx nrbrtx at gmail.com
Sat Aug 26 22:04:56 UTC 2017


Thank you, Ralf!

> To see into what packages software from upstream is
>split https://tracker.debian.org/ is helpful. Helpful
>is https://packages.ubuntu.com/ in combination with Google.
I'm very familiar with this sites and console utilities - apt-get,
apt-cache, aptitude, dpkg, apt-file (searches not installed files).
Other site I like is pkgs.org. It searches packages in all linux
distibutions (see https://pkgs.org/download/synaptic as example).

>There are helpers such as auto-apt, http://www.debiananwenderhandb
uch.de/auto-apt.html so you might not to search anything. Instead of running
>The text I found is in English, on the left there is a selection box were
you could chose the language, seemingly the original link is in German.
Nice catch!
I have never used auto-apt. I have heard about it, but not used it before.
I'll try to compile something with it :)


>> Коля Гурьев
>And by the way, why are the search results different? These programs use
different repositories?

Theoretically gnome-software should show all packages from APT and AppStream
<https://www.freedesktop.org/wiki/Distributions/AppStream/>.
In practice gnome-software is great new program from hipsters, I think. It
is shiny and it is all that we need from it to love it :)

>> Jeremy Bicha
> Please also try gnome-packagekit. (It installs an app named Packages).

I tried gpk-application before writing this first post.
Search in description does not work in it, but search by name works.
Overall functionality is poor.

>One more issue with Synaptic is that it does not work on GNOME on
>Wayland, the default session in the upcoming Ubuntu 17.10.
You mean bug 1712089
<https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/synaptic/+bug/1712089>, right?
I can't reproduce it on fresh QEMU install. It reports that I use normal
Xorg in all sessions (ubuntu and GNOME).
But synaptic in 17.10 rebuild index often as before, and axi-cache is
broken too.


For now I'm testing Muon and it seems to be very good.

But Synaptic is mature and well-known.

In Debian Stretch it works very stable. It is pre-installed as
recommendation for Xfce, Cinnamon, MATE, LXQT, LXDE and other desktops:
$ apt-cache rdepends synaptic
synaptic
Reverse Depends:
  aptoncd
  task-xfce-desktop
  task-mate-desktop
  task-lxqt-desktop
  task-lxde-desktop
  task-gnome-desktop
  mate-menu
  lxqt-config
  education-desktop-other
  education-desktop-mate
  education-desktop-lxde
  education-desktop-gnome
  cinnamon-desktop-environment
 |apt

In Ubuntu Xenial we have:
$ apt-cache rdepends synaptic
synaptic
Reverse Depends:
  aptoncd
 |apt
  lubuntu-desktop
  update-notifier
  update-manager
 |apt
  mate-menu
  lubuntu-desktop
  cinnamon-desktop-environment
  update-notifier
 |apt
  update-manager

So it *should* work stable on Ubuntu too.
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