Default Browser Follow-up

Fri Jun 28 10:05:36 UTC 2013

"does Ubuntu community need to have control over any of the browsers' sync services?'
No - but how do we assure service quality if the external sync service goes down?

Hilton Gibson
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From: ubuntu-desktop-bounces at lists.ubuntu.com [ubuntu-desktop-bounces at lists.ubuntu.com] on behalf of x o [ukr at outlook.com]
Sent: 28 June 2013 11:20 AM
To: ubuntu-desktop at lists.ubuntu.com
Subject: RE: Default Browser Follow-up

security code step can't be called unfriendly and its pretty easy to sync a text file with it in ubuntu one, atleast i do it that way:)
does Ubuntu community need to have control over any of the browsers' sync services?
i think ubuntu sync for browsers can be easily added in ubuntu one itself with preconfiguered most common directories like ~.mozilla

> From: hgibson at sun.ac.za
> To: ukr at outlook.com; ubuntu-desktop at lists.ubuntu.com
> Subject: RE: Default Browser Follow-up
> Date: Fri, 28 Jun 2013 09:09:37 +0000
>
> xo : I agree, but the present Firefox sync is not "Ubuntu user friendly" as is Google Chrome.
> For example: During first start of Firefox is the ubuntu user asked if they would like to sync with "Ubuntu One"?
> I am not sure if promoting the Firefox sync service when using Ubuntu is a good thing.
> The Ubuntu community has no control over the Firefox sync service.
>
> Hilton Gibson
> Systems Administrator
> JS Gericke Library
> Room 1025D
> Stellenbosch University
> Private Bag X5036
> Stellenbosch
> 7599
> South Africa
>
> Tel: +27 21 808 4100 | Cell: +27 84 646 4758
>
> http://www.sun.ac.za/library
> ________________________________________
> From: ubuntu-desktop-bounces at lists.ubuntu.com [ubuntu-desktop-bounces at lists.ubuntu.com] on behalf of x o [ukr at outlook.com]
> Sent: 28 June 2013 11:01 AM
> To: ubuntu-desktop at lists.ubuntu.com
> Subject: RE: Default Browser Follow-up
>
> firefox has it's own sync service for a long time and it works the same way chrome's does, there is no need to force mozilla into "ubuntu one" because any user can setup ubuntu one synchronization of ~.mozilla folder
>
> > From: hgibson at sun.ac.za
> > To: abral at email.it; ubuntu-desktop at lists.ubuntu.com
> > Subject: RE: Default Browser Follow-up
> > Date: Fri, 28 Jun 2013 07:25:37 +0000
> >
> > Hi Abral
> >
> > You make some very good points about Firefox.
> > But from a users perspective, I find Google Chrome extremely useful because of the way I can easily sync my bookmarks etc.. between my work computer and home computer and mobile device.
> > I think this speaks to device convergence as Mark has so often mentioned, as a primary goal for Ubuntu.
> > I do not normally intercede on this list but I feel the goal of device ubiquity and how an internet browser deals with it is very important.
> > Perhaps if Firefox could be "configured" to automatically sync using the cloud "Ubuntu One" service then it would be on "useful" parity with Google Chrome.
> >
> > Regards
> >
> > Hilton Gibson
> > Systems Administrator
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> > Stellenbosch University
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> >
> > Tel: +27 21 808 4100 | Cell: +27 84 646 4758
> >
> > http://www.sun.ac.za/library
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> > From: ubuntu-desktop-bounces at lists.ubuntu.com [ubuntu-desktop-bounces at lists.ubuntu.com] on behalf of Abral [abral at email.it]
> > Sent: 28 June 2013 03:00 AM
> > To: ubuntu-desktop at lists.ubuntu.com
> > Subject: Default Browser Follow-up
> >
> > Even if I think openness and freedom should be the main reason why
> > Ubuntu should have Firefox by default, I won't talk about this here.
> >
> > This is a non comprehensive list of "non-philosophical" reasons:
> >
> > 1) Firefox is a lot more familiar than Chromium for Linux users. It's
> > always been the default and it's the default in almost all the
> > distributions. Most of the people that don't prefer Firefox are using
> > Chrome, and not Chromium.
> >
> > 2) Firefox has a built-in PDF reader.
> >
> > 3) Firefox is better integrated with GNOME.
> >
> > 4) Firefox is going to support GStreamer soon
> > (https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=794282).
> >
> > 5) Firefox is going to support GTK3 soon
> > (https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=627699).
> >
> > 6) Firefox has made a great effort to hunt down responsiveness issues,
> > seen in pauses and jank. They have made significant improvements seen
> > both in current releases as well as current nightlies, with more on the way.
> >
> > 7) When it comes to JavaScript performance, there is no clear winner. In
> > some tests, Firefox is faster. In other tests, Chromium is faster.
> >
> > 8) Mozilla is working on a project called OpenWebApps, that looks
> > similar to Unity webapps. You could reuse Firefox code to make Unity
> > webapps run in chromeless windows.
> >
> > 9) Firefox supports more architectures.
> >
> > 10) Firefox is more customizable than Chromium.
> >
> > 11) Firefox memory usage is a lot better than Chromium's and has
> > improved even more in the latest releases (that would be shipped with
> > Saucy), for example see https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=678037.
> >
> > 12) Mozilla is working on some cross-platform technologies that could
> > benefit Linux users. For example, Shumway (that is a replacement for
> > Flash), pdf.js (a pdf reader written in JavaScript), asm.js (that could
> > enable interesting applications and games to run on every platform, so
> > also on Linux).
> >
> > 13) There's good support for Firefox in Ubuntu. There are some (or, at
> > least, one) Canonical developers that are experienced with the Firefox
> > code base and are working on it
> > (https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=619899).
> >
> > 14) About web developers, I think it's a matter of taste. Firefox has
> > good web developer tools, and Chromium has good web developer tools too.
> > Firefox has also the addon Firebug, that is one of the most used by web
> > developers.
> >
> > 15) Firefox has smooth scrolling, some people are used to it and
> > wouldn't like the worse Chromium's scrolling experience.
> >
> > 16) There are other Linux distributions developers that are working on
> > Firefox. Canonical would benefit from it for free.
> >
> > I can't see any reason why you should switch to Chromium.
> > The responsiveness issues that Chow Loong Jin was talking about have
> > been mitigated a lot in the latest releases and will continue to improve
> > (there are some projects to improve this, like there was a project to
> > improve memory usage).
> > The GLES issue that Oliver Grawert was talking about will be likely
> > fixed soon enough, see
> > https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=788319. They're considering
> > switching to EGL instead of GLX.
> >
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